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Title: Snowing again
Post by: guest7 on December 17, 2010, 09:23:15 AM
It's coming down heavily here this morning... which is bad news for the couple who wanted me to insulate their loft today  ::)

Oh well, an enforced day off isn't a bad thing.

GC
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: guest868 on December 17, 2010, 09:46:46 AM
Yup, 2-3 inches up in New Inn, almost double that in Newport. Had to leave the bike bottom of the hill. Freshly laid untreated tarmac does not provide much grip when covered in plenty of snow. Grr. Got to ride across to the Fens tonight as well. 
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: el vencejo on December 17, 2010, 12:00:58 PM
It dropped to just 3ºC here last night  :o
Sunshine and 12º now, still a bit chilly!
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: pete on December 17, 2010, 03:56:42 PM
Another walk to work today as the xbr's ignition was frozen AGAIN! Pulled the cover out of the shed the other day only to find the field mice had made a plethora of holes in it.Hope their reflective m3 nest keeps them warm and safe during these long winter months..... ;D
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: squirrelciv on December 17, 2010, 04:46:11 PM
Tried the ride to work this morning and the bl00dy XT died! 6 hours before AA got me home. Now in the shed trying to figure out what's broke.

BTW what's the clues to carb icing? Seemed to be running fine, then acted as if out of fuel before dying. Once sat for a bit, the bike started but wouldn't rev in the throttle. long while later, ran fine (?) but after couple of hundred yards, started acting as if out of fuel again. Leave it, and it ran fine. (before anyone asks, yes I've plenty of fuel)

Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: trophydave on December 17, 2010, 04:58:28 PM
Got to ride across to the Fens tonight as well. 

No snow here near Nottingham,bone dry and cold if you are heading this way.
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Mark on December 17, 2010, 05:02:38 PM
YES! SNOW!  ;D

Put chains on the rear tyre of my rig, never used them before but thought I'd give them a try in anticipation of going somewhere snowy next month. Can't believe the difference, was going places I didn't think was possible.

Mark
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: trophydave on December 17, 2010, 05:07:15 PM
BTW what's the clues to carb icing? Seemed to be running fine, then acted as if out of fuel before dying. Once sat for a bit, the bike started but wouldn't rev in the throttle. long while later, ran fine (?) but after couple of hundred yards, started acting as if out of fuel again. Leave it, and it ran fine. (before anyone asks, yes I've plenty of fuel)

It sounds like carb icing to me.What's the name of that stuff you can add to petrol to stop it happening?Either that of go somewhere hot for a while ;D
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Andy M on December 17, 2010, 06:03:59 PM
Ask GC! If you can tape a notebook cover round the carb and it stops it was carb icing  ;D

Your symptoms would also fit a wet coil in my experience.

Andy
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: sexually oriented on December 17, 2010, 06:12:01 PM
YES! SNOW!  ;D

 thought I'd give them a try in anticipation of going somewhere snowy next month.

Mark
Oooh do Tell us more Mark,
does it involve a short ferry crossing by any chance ::) ;)
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: squirrelciv on December 17, 2010, 06:15:38 PM
Ask GC! If you can tape a notebook cover round the carb and it stops it was carb icing  ;D

Your symptoms would also fit a wet coil in my experience.

Andy

thought that too as I've had grief in warmer weather when there's a lot of spray. I will be delving ;)
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Mark on December 17, 2010, 06:19:46 PM
YES! SNOW!  ;D

 thought I'd give them a try in anticipation of going somewhere snowy next month.

Mark
Oooh do Tell us more Mark,
does it involve a short ferry crossing by any chance ::) ;)

All I need is an invite and money then fit the 600 motor. ;D

Mark
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Andy M on December 17, 2010, 06:30:49 PM
Oooh do Tell us more Mark,
does it involve a short ferry crossing by any chance ::) ;)

The Isle of Wight in January?  :o Now that's taking this winter riding thing to daft levels. Go to Bavaria the beers nicer and there's more to do.

Andy
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: themoudie on December 17, 2010, 11:47:24 PM
Tried the ride to work this morning and the bl00dy XT died! 6 hours before AA got me home. Now in the shed trying to figure out what's broke.

BTW what's the clues to carb icing? Seemed to be running fine, then acted as if out of fuel before dying. Once sat for a bit, the bike started but wouldn't rev in the throttle. long while later, ran fine (?) but after couple of hundred yards, started acting as if out of fuel again. Leave it, and it ran fine. (before anyone asks, yes I've plenty of fuel)



I suspect ethanol content is not helping you Pat. Wynn's 'Dry Fuel' works well, it also helps prevent that water/condensation rusting the bottom out of SRX tanks! GC type hot air scoops fabricated from soft drink cans, pie trays, or bean tins all work. I've also encased the inlet of an AJS 18S with glass wool insulation afore fixing in place with a bean can and jubilee clips. Worked at -15C!

Just been out to the workshop and we have a crystal clear night, a few shooting stars, a moon and -8C. Whilst my mate further north in the snow fields of Ross-shire near Ben Wyvis is already down to -15C. You've had it warm in Wales so far! ;D

Go safe, it's the 'Charioteers' time now! ;D ;D ;D

Toodle pip, Bill.
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: guest987 on December 18, 2010, 09:58:44 AM
Rode home at 03:00 this morning. Bit tricky but managed ok. For once the odd car driver was sensible and let me get on with it. Unlike the w****r who over took on the inside on the way into work. Passed my inside handlebar by about a foot.
Xbr went well and didn't miss a beat. The Mitas tyres are in their element at the moment ;)

C**k >:(

Would post piccies but may as well ask me for the moon on a stick.

Rob.
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: guest7 on December 18, 2010, 11:52:17 AM
Moon on a stick, as requested:

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/one.pot/temp/robsnow1.JPG)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/one.pot/temp/robsnow2.JPG)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/one.pot/temp/robsnow4.JPG)
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: sexually oriented on December 18, 2010, 12:14:16 PM

All I need is an invite and money then fit the 600 motor. ;D

Mark
You need no invite Mark,you wanna come ,you come!,
what you will need though is some money and an outfit that will cruise/wont struggle at 70mph
for a couple of hours at a time,also a smallish tent,very warm clothing and a constant sense of humour
of which i know you are not short of :D
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: guest7 on December 18, 2010, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: sexually oriented link=topic=5207.msg34191#msg34191
You need no invite Mark,you wanna come ,you come!,

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Unless Mark is talking about the Tauerntreffen in Austria which is invite-only (and a bloody good rally).

GC
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: guest868 on December 18, 2010, 03:54:06 PM
Got to ride across to the Fens tonight as well. 

No snow here near Nottingham,bone dry and cold if you are heading this way.

Cheers, ended up spending the night in Chippenham after almost being wiped out by a car spinning into the central reservation in front of me on the M4 yesterday afternoon. When I say in front of me, I mean I have no idea how I avoided it whilst braking as it blocked both outside lanes. After sorting the lass out with the ambulance and police I cracked on then realised I was shook up good. Dropped into my Mums for a cuppa and cake and ended up staying.
Which meant this morning I was greeted with 6+ inches of snow that had fallen there over night. Made for an interesting ride back home, though the M4 wasn't so bad from Bath on.
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: johnr on December 18, 2010, 04:02:54 PM
my beesas propping up the shed last night!!

m21,

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/ukkatanapics/snowing%20december%2017th%202010%20the%20mede/ba42ff3a.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/ukkatanapics/snowing%20december%2017th%202010%20the%20mede/098d338b.jpg)

and c15

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/ukkatanapics/snowing%20december%2017th%202010%20the%20mede/baede5ab.jpg)

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/ukkatanapics/snowing%20december%2017th%202010%20the%20mede/f1270550.jpg)
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Mark on December 18, 2010, 04:41:01 PM
my beesas propping up the shed last night!!


Get them in the house John. What are you doing!!!

Mark
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: squirrelciv on December 20, 2010, 06:34:52 AM
well my carb icing problem wasn't that afterall. Decided to prod around the ignition system while the bike was in the shed and found severely corroded terminals at the main fuse. Trying to unplug things lead to complete failure and a useless bike. Heyho. Lets see how long a parts delivery takes.
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: guest18 on December 20, 2010, 07:07:18 AM
Solder it meantime?  :)
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Mark on December 20, 2010, 07:47:53 AM
Twist the wires together until you can find the solder. Get out there in the snow. :)

Mark
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Steffan on December 20, 2010, 09:55:10 AM
The Mitas tyres are in their element at the moment ;)
Rob.

Anyone used these on a solo as a regular thing? Grip, wear, usual feedback? H03 from memory, am I right Rob?

Steffan
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: guest868 on December 20, 2010, 11:33:55 AM
The Mitas tyres are in their element at the moment ;)
Rob.

Anyone used these on a solo as a regular thing? Grip, wear, usual feedback? H03 from memory, am I right Rob?

Steffan

I had Mitas E07s on the Ten, and they were without a doubt the absolute worst tyre I've ever had. No predictability in the wet, and no real dry grip.
My friend has E09 Dakars on his Ten and loves them.
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: trophydave on December 20, 2010, 12:34:50 PM
I have got an EO7 sat here that I was going to use on the Africa Twin.I think I might just change my mind having read that.
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: squirrelciv on December 20, 2010, 05:38:56 PM
Solder it meantime?  :)

Gone past the point sadly. The terminals in the solenoid corroded off completely, nothing left but a green stain :'(
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: guest18 on December 20, 2010, 10:44:28 PM
in that case, a 12v solenoid is a 12v solenoid (up to a point).
Nick one from the shed/car and bodge... ;-)
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: 002 on December 21, 2010, 12:08:36 AM
Solder it meantime?  :)

Gone past the point sadly. The terminals in the solenoid corroded off completely, nothing left but a green stain :'(

Got a Honda in bits.......use that one !

Jethro
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: squirrelciv on December 21, 2010, 06:38:42 AM
The solenoid is only part of the problem. The XT has a sub-link to connect the solenoid to the main loom and that's bu99ared too. Parts ordered and on their way, thanks for the tips.

BTW any theories why a short on the feed of the solenoid could lead to bad running?? I'm still not sure I've found the cause of the original fault.
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: 002 on December 21, 2010, 10:32:36 AM
I know with a lot of Yamahas every thing seems to go through one large relay.Indicators,starter circuit,fuel pump and god knows what else.

Check this relay for corrosion aswell.....thats if you have one  ;)


I'm having a carb icing problem....but only on one cylinder,will have to check connections and carb heater.


Jethro
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Mark on December 21, 2010, 11:23:34 AM

I'm having a carb icing problem....but only on one cylinder,will have to check connections and carb heater.

Jethro

Bit of a bugger on a thumper. ;D

Mark
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: 002 on December 21, 2010, 05:12:57 PM

I'm having a carb icing problem....but only on one cylinder,will have to check connections and carb heater.

Jethro

Bit of a bugger on a thumper. ;D

Mark

It is a 450 Thumper at tickover......then 900 twin above 2,500rpm.

Jethro
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Andy M on December 21, 2010, 05:48:56 PM
My 390cc Bonneville single would do 45 mph, but toasted a silencer in the process. Take care.

Andy
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Mark on December 21, 2010, 07:30:34 PM

I'm having a carb icing problem....but only on one cylinder,will have to check connections and carb heater.

Jethro

Bit of a bugger on a thumper. ;D

Mark

It is a 450 Thumper at tickover......then 900 twin above 2,500rpm.

Jethro

Sounds like one of those dual fuel economy cars going from electric to petrol.

Mark
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: guest987 on December 23, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
The Mitas tyres are in their element at the moment ;)
Rob.

Anyone used these on a solo as a regular thing? Grip, wear, usual feedback? H03 from memory, am I right Rob?

Steffan

Yeah HO3 Steffan.
The lack of grip provided by the tyres is offset by the lack of grip offered by the road surface at the moment. They seem to cancel themselves out.
As for wear, I can safely predict a return trip to Moscow would result in no noticeable wear as the tyres are made from recycled russian tank tracks.

An unusual side effect from using the bike throughout the snowy season, thus far, is that I now have the pertest buttocks in the club. This is as a direct result of the number of times I have had to clench them during a journey.
I am thinking of writing to Mit**se Tyres and suggesting a novel advertising campaign.

'Tight a**e tyres, Economical and medically proven to improve the sphincter'

Rob
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Mark on December 23, 2010, 10:27:23 PM
I'll have to stick them on the wifes bike. ;D

Mark
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: Richard on December 23, 2010, 10:37:47 PM
"I now have the pertest buttocks in the club"

Omigod what did I join ?

Keith !  Get your lighter.

Richard
Title: Re: Snowing again
Post by: 002 on December 23, 2010, 11:50:29 PM

I'm having a carb icing problem....but only on one cylinder,will have to check connections and carb heater.


Think I found the problem.
Check power,continuity and resistance.....all OK !

Drained carbs.....Water in No1 !
So must have been freezing in the pilot jet when running.
Slow down,stop left to idle..heat of engine thawed ice....run tidy for the next mile then freeze again.
Will have to take it for a longer spin over Christmas to see if fully cured.

Jethro