Author Topic: Supermono 1300cc racer project.  (Read 29302 times)

guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2014, 03:08:27 PM »
Its a water turbine paddle wheel. the bike back wheel sits on the rollers and up against the car wheel, the bike spins the car wheel, which , when water is applied to the turbine house, applies a force on the 1 meter long arm , which presses down on the load cell, which displays kilos on the digital scales. so this kilos reading is multiplied by the engine revs and gives a figure.
for example 11.5 kilos x 7000 rpm:- i dont bother about the three zeroes, so 11.5 x 7 = 80.5
if i tweak something and it becomes 11.6 kilos, or 7050 rpm , then it is on the correct path of adjustment.
calculations or fiddle figures arent necessary for seeing if the power increases or decreases when adjusting fuel or timing - i am happy if i see the scales or revs increasing when i adjust something.
I have just put together a logger which can be plugged into the computer, but otherwise its just as easy to use a video camera sighted on the scales and revcounter if some logging is desired.
the water doesnt cost so much, and can even be returned to a header tank if i had one. Mind you , it will boil after prolonged running as heat is generated.
I can also bolt on a seperate engine and run with a chain to the sprocket if i wish to bolt it onto the turbine shaft. at the moment the sprocket is just hanging so i dont get tangled up in it.

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2014, 08:52:40 PM »
Makes sense, I seem to remember using something similar in my final year to measure the output of a steam power plant. Did you build this yourself ?

guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2014, 09:01:03 PM »
Original H. P. Andersen. Danish brakebench which takes up to 350 hp. i totally renovated her- was in a sorry state, then built on the rolling bed and car wheel.

guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2014, 07:33:48 PM »
This is all getting rather exciting john! I love the work going on here.

Keep it up. Do you plan to do any European supermono rounds with it

Hi Andy, had hoped to race the Hybrid 500 at Snetterton in June, but funds wont allow it. So I just keep working on the 1300, with whatever doesnt cost anything, and hope that next year will be the big event. Yes hope to race the 1300 at Euro Mono, especially looking forward to bringing her to a Scarborough event.

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #64 on: April 26, 2014, 05:19:05 PM »
especially looking forward to bringing her to a Scarborough event.

I'd make the trip to Scarborough to see that.

guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #65 on: May 02, 2014, 07:56:06 PM »
Dyno from the side and front




guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2014, 06:56:28 PM »
Cheers Rhinoman.

So here is the crankpin ready to get hardened, and after that, finely grinded down to 40mm

I always used to think things i used to buy were expensive, until i started making them myself. Bought things are very cheap considering all the R&D, work and finish, transport and storage, sales etc.


guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2014, 06:12:01 PM »
now the crankpin is hardened. only the final grinding left to do on it.

That leaves me to sort out the cylinder O ring and 20mm distance peice under the cylinder this month, and hopefully the final water cooling holes and threads in the head.

Then theres everything else left to fix

guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2014, 06:47:59 PM »
Thanks to Jens of http://www.nccr.se/ i now have a Buell XB clutch which will be going on the 1300. next step is designing the axle to take it, and precision machining and honing the crank pin holes in the flywheels.

guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2014, 07:06:49 PM »
now the cylinder base spacer is finished


guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #70 on: August 24, 2014, 12:59:14 PM »
finally got around to shortening the liner , assembled cylinder and bottom spacer.




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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #71 on: August 25, 2014, 09:24:03 AM »
Looks like its getting there now. What a monster, cant wait until you get it running

guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #72 on: September 01, 2014, 07:27:43 PM »
Cheers Joolz, ive had a nice weekend running my old Hybrid on my brakebench. It pressed 12 kilos at engine 7460 rpm


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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #73 on: September 01, 2014, 08:09:40 PM »
Bike looks good. Would love to hear it.

Put me right here, that's 120 Nm? Just shy of 90 lbft?

That'll be the torque at the turbine? Assuming I'm on the right lines here, what speed is the turbine doing?

The rolling diameters of turbine tyre and bike tyre look similar. How much slip?

Great stuff.



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guest1306

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Re: Supermono 1300cc racer project.
« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2014, 08:16:10 PM »


yes thats the turbine torque, when running in top gear on the bike. absolutely no slip, she is ratcheted down good and hard.

didnt think about recording the turbine revs, too much panic, so i must work it out the hard way.

video coming in a few days



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