Author Topic: Enfield final drive chain issue  (Read 1075 times)

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Re: Enfield final drive chain issue
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2019, 07:03:21 AM »
Thanks guys. The reason I need a friend with 40 years engineering experience is that if I drill two holes one of them misses!

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Re: Enfield final drive chain issue
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2019, 11:08:49 AM »
When you drill square holes then you know you're bad 😁😁

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Re: Enfield final drive chain issue
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2019, 09:16:12 AM »
Just an addendum to my post about missing teeth. I decided to investigate a little and found that I could cut my ruined sprocket using an ordinary hacksaw with a not particularly new blade. I tried the same on a BMW F650 front sprocket I had lying around and of course the hacksaw had no affect whatsoever.


So I think the sequence of wear goes sprocket made of mild steel hooks within a short mileage, hooked sprocket wears chain. Fucking Indian crap! The sprockets that Hitchcocks have made for the bolt on conversion are made by Talon so will be properly hardened presumably and will therefore stop the premature wear process.


I still love the Mighty Enfield though.


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Re: Enfield final drive chain issue
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2019, 10:16:45 AM »
Hi ian.  I have some experience of industrial mechanical power transmission from a previous life, but we never did any roller chain drives. However, a few things to ponder. The front sprocket , although the teeth feel the same force as the rear sprocket, they are subjected to it more often for obvious reasons. I've always understood the main cause of tooth hooking is stretched chain. The reason being that a stretched chain is longer between each centre and so adopts a position further out on a greater pitch circle. I'm sure lubrication obviously play an enormous part, as does material quality.

One theoretical way to reduce the force going though the chain and the pressure on the tooth is to increase teeth numbers on both sprockets. The penalty is higher circumferencial speed, though this is hardly a problem on an Enfield! The main restriction is the lack of clearance around the gearbox area (on all bikes, not just a mighty enfield)

None of this really helps! 😄
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Re: Enfield final drive chain issue
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2019, 10:39:38 AM »
Would it be worth looking into swapping over to a disc rear hub setup? This comes with a bolt on rear sprocket like a typical jap bike. Probably not worth it?
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Re: Enfield final drive chain issue
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2019, 09:18:18 PM »
Thanks Andy.

I found your insights interesting, as always when someone knows something in depth it makes me realise there is always more to consider than at first sight.

Swapping over to a bolt on hub would I fear be prohibitively expensive but I am going to pursue converting my rear hub to bolt-on.

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Re: Enfield final drive chain issue
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2019, 08:43:36 PM »
Thanks Andy.

I found your insights interesting, as always when someone knows something in depth it makes me realise there is always more to consider than at first sight.

Swapping over to a bolt on hub would I fear be prohibitively expensive but I am going to pursue converting my rear hub to bolt-on.

Ian


Good luck mate. Hope it works out for you, as I'm sure it will. Keep us posted.
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