Srx hard to start when warm

[Danxup]

Now then chaps..
Ive had chance to mess with the 600 abit this morning.
The choke plunger was seized in.  I had to encourage it out with wd40 and a pair of pliers .. now its sorted and moving nicely.. ive replaced all the fuel lines i can get to without removing carbs including vacume pipe.  .. she fires up second kick ticks over lovley .. but apply trottle and she coughs and splutters like owt.. must be a blockage in the carbs.. hopefully get time to get them off this week and have a look see..  she starts when warm now at least .. must of been the choke thing.. cheers ill let you know how i go

[themoudie]

  Persistance!

It'll come right Dan.

Those carbs could be tight between the cylinder inlet stubs and the airbox and you may have to slacken everything off and gently wiggle! If the inlet stubs and airbox stubs are at all dry then treat them with a soaking of 'AmorAll Protectant' for a good 24hrs if possible. Makes them flexible and protects them from the effects of the fuel.

My regards, Bill

[timbo]

There is also a recipe involving Wintergreen oil on here somewhere, which also has a remarkable affect in rejuvenating tired brittle carb rubbers 

[Danxup]

Ey up chaps.. so this morning i had time to get the carbs off.. ive had the tank repaired and lined now aswel.. the float bowl had lots of brown and black bits in must be rust.. is it ok to blast out the carbs with the airline or could this damage the diaphragm? Same question for the fuel tap? Thanks guys
Dan.

[iansoady]

I'd be cautious about using an airline near the diaphragm. I'd strip it completely and use carb cleaner on it. Some people reckon ultrasonic cleaners work but I haven't had any real success with my (admittedly noddy) small unit.

[themoudie]

Aye Dan,

Usual problem with a machine that is laid up with manky or ethanol fuel and no stabiliser mixed through it. After my 'incident' I drained Sally's tank and sucked all remaining vestiges of fuel from the two pannier parts of the tank with a large syringe and pipe (See previous posts on lamb feeding syringes!).   

Compressed air through all the little orifices, having removed the diaphragms. Cotton buds, with paper sticks( ), wooden cocktail sticks and brake cleaner for loosening the rust and other detritous. Brake cleaner may also perish the diaphragms (!).    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! 

Again, I use the 'ArmorAll' on the diaphragms and massage it in with my fingers, gently! Watch your nails if you play guitar!    Wipe any surplus off after leaving for a few hours. Re-assemble with care and a little light machine oil (3in1) on all pivots, springs etc.

Re-install and before connecting up the feed from the petrol tap, insert a small filter between the tap and the carb, it will save you more grief, as will draining your tank if you are going to keep the bike off the road for more than 8 weeks; especially when condensation is likely to form in the tank.

I attach an image of the contents of the pannier parts of the tank of a Mono SRX that I unfortunately purchased! 

Good health and my regards, Bill

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[Danxup]

This aft i gave the carbs a reyt good fettle. And got them back on .. bike fires up 3rd kick on prime and seems to run well.. the throttle works mint again .  Unfortunately not had time to take her ont road as im off on holiday tonight wit missus.. ill keep you posted.

[themoudie]

Have a grand holiday Dan! 

My regards, Bill

[Danxup]

Morning guys.. back of mi hols .. the 600 is booked in for mot at 9 this morning ... she should pass then hopfully i can take her on abit of a run see how she fairs with since the carb clean out.. ill let you know how i go.. 🤤

[Danxup]

Now then.  Been dead busy but went out for a decent run on the 600 last Tuesday when england played as roads were quiet.   She seems to go realy well now.. im going out again tonight after work hopefully last tues wasnt a fluke..  great weather for biked btw!! Also.. last time i went out on the 400 by the time i got home the battery didnt have even enough power to make the indicators work but bike was still running fine.. could this be the generator coil? Thanks guys

[themoudie]

Aye Dan,

Check the generator, the rectifier and the battery, the latter should be first in line. Also check all the wiring including the 'Earth' wires for continuity. Electrickery is not a strong point of mine and SteveL whom is well versed in the black art and has been running tests on one of his own fleet maybe better to answer your queries. SteveH also is familar with this 'other' world and may chip in his pennyworth.

If the battery is duff, I would recommend a 'MotoBatt', they are no cheap, but hold up well to single vibes.

My electrician friend in IoM once said "Treat it as water running through pipes." to which my reply was that my plumbing always leaks! 

Cannot remember if I sent a copy of the SRX workshop manual pdf to you, if you need a copy PM me using the link on the left of this post, with your email address and I will forward you same.

My regards, Bill

[Moto63]

No Bill... plumbing is much harder. We don't av nice colour coded pipes to suss the job out. They're all this funny copper colour. Hot, cold, flow and return 😁👍

[themoudie]

Aye Michael,

I wouldn't describe aged Italian wiring as "nice colour coded pipes" or wire for that matter. More a "tangled mass of faded plastic containing rotten verdigris covered copper". A bit like a plate of pasta with green pesto and the same capability to conduct electrickery! 

The same can be said of older Japanese wiring as well, in which case it would be "fine noodles with wasabi paste"! 

Whilst copper coloured tubes just weep at the joints! 

Toodle pip, Bill

[Danxup]

Thanks .. i know the battery is good so ill have to get my uncle in to check the other bits. as i also dont do wires.. ill let you know how i get on.. cheers!

[Moto63]

Ah but do you do copper pipes Dan??😁😁😁👍...My pipes don't weep Bill, but I do quite a lot, especially by the time Friday teatime comes round. Think it's the 39 years in the trade that's done it to me😢😢😉🤘. cheers, Michael