Hi Bill, Just thought I would add a couple more variables to your decision making... Some years back, I quite fancied a Bell open-face helmet... So much so, that I had quite a long drive to try one before I bought... In the shop I tried one, ( in more than one size ), and could not get it off my head fast enough..!! The manager said " Quite a few people have had the same reaction"... It appears that if you buy a Bell helmet in the States, it is what it says on the tin... On our side of the pond, if it says Bell on the tin, it was made by "Bieffe" , an Italian firm... I did buy on that particular occasion, a Shoei ... RJ Platinum-R ... the best open-face helmet I have come across so far ... ( Still available )... As for goggles versus visors.... I love goggles.... or rather I did, until the day I stopped a bloody big bumble bee with my top lip... whilst doing motorway speeds..!! One more variable to consider... a flip - front helmet... My Nolan flip front seemed to be a good compromise between the two designs... I hope this hasn't clouded the issue ... Regards, Tony