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Andy M

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2016, 04:29:13 PM »
Can anyone make sense of the SV440 spec sheet  ???

I don't really care less if it has a 7 plate 4 cubit clutch with 3 Mongolian gallon hydraulic tank, which is does tell me, but would really like to know the weight and HP so I can see how it'll go against a Streetwin or Enfield , which it doesn't seem to mention!

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manxie

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2016, 08:08:59 PM »
Cant find any info myself Andy. I`ll email my local dealership who are getting the SWM`s in (also RE and MG dealership) to see if they can tell me. Should know tomorrow night  :-\

Had an email back already saying ........

Hi Steve
From memory talking to Rob from SWM UK it is around 44.



Also further reading leans towards the 440cc motors being Chinese.... dunno if this is a good thing or not.... I think the latter  :-\
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SteveC#222

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2016, 09:53:17 PM »


Also further reading leans towards the 440cc motors being Chinese.... dunno if this is a good thing or not.... I think the latter  :-\

SWM - Speedy Working Motors - owned by Shineway Motorcycles of China and made in Italy.

http://www.gizmag.com/swm-motorcycles-2016-lineup/38250/
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manxie

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2016, 10:17:07 PM »


Also further reading leans towards the 440cc motors being Chinese.... dunno if this is a good thing or not.... I think the latter  :-\

SWM - Speedy Working Motors - owned by Shineway Motorcycles of China and made in Italy.

http://www.gizmag.com/swm-motorcycles-2016-lineup/38250/

Hmmm? The bigger engines are supposed to be Husky`s though? Shame??
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CrazyFrog

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2016, 09:29:45 AM »
Lovely bike, thanks for posting. i'm amazed i've never heard of or seen one before  :-\

It's not that amazing Timbo, there were only ever 30 brought into the country.

The story is that after re-unification MZ had started to hit hard times in the early nineties coping with the free market and loss of government subsidies. They managed to get a re-financing deal sorted out with the banks, but part of the deal was that they move away from two strokes. This eventually resulted in the sale of the two stroke production line to Kanuni in Turkey, and the release of the Seymore Powell designed Skorpion. However, as a gesture of intent and to prove to the banks that they were in earnest, the factory designed and got into production the Rotax 500 based SilverStar and Country machines in six weeks! As a result the SilverStar which is based on the existing ETZ251 frame and cycle parts feels more like a modern 125 in terms of size and weight, but goes like a 500.

The Country was also a smart looking bike, and I think even rarer in this country than the SilverStar, with only about 20 coming here. :-

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timbo

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2016, 01:08:18 PM »
Thanks for all that info. Every days a school day  :) The Country looks well good  :)
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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2016, 09:16:55 PM »
Yes thanks for the info Pete, like Tim says everyday is a school day. I didn't know half of what you explained....cheers, Michael

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2016, 02:34:29 PM »
It's just the same as any bike, and why shouldn't it be? Just ease it over TDC, and then a good big swing and off she went.  :D

When I first had a Velocette, I was warned that unless I used the proper Velo starting procedure it would never go. I never had that much success with it so reverted to the standard big single drill which worked much better (and indeed I started a Venom last Saturday morning first kick by using it where others had struggled).

Standard procedure (cold start):

1. Close air lever and lightly tickle carb (not till petrol gushes out).
2. Set advance lever to about 1/3 retarded.
3. With the throttle barely cracked open, find compression.
4. Ease over compression with the valve lifter then gently push kickstart to bottom of travel.
5. Repeat 4.
5. Find compression again, ease over with valve lifter and let kickstart return to top.
6. Give a long swinging kick (not a half-hearted stab) keeping the throttle barely cracked open.

4 and 5 make sure you've got a nice cylinder full of decent mixture. 5 makes sure that you have the maximum rotation to build up momentum in the flywheel before the next compression. 6 gives you maximum crankshaft speed again to get over compresion.

If it doesn't start, try again then flood it a bit more. It will often give a cough but not pick up if it needs more flooding.

If a warm engine omit stage 1. It can be harder if it's been running then stood for half an hour or so.
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manxie

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2016, 03:44:10 PM »
UPDATE ON SWM HP.......

I received an email today from the future SWM dealership as follows.......

The details I gave you were incorrect. The HP is 35 but the bike only
weighs 144 kg so power to weight is really good.


Just to keep all you guys informed. Cheers
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timbo

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2016, 11:47:39 PM »
Thanks Ian. Great tips on starting. So good I've copied and laminated it  ;)
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Andy M

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2016, 04:16:11 PM »
UPDATE ON SWM HP.......

I received an email today from the future SWM dealership as follows.......

The details I gave you were incorrect. The HP is 35 but the bike only
weighs 144 kg so power to weight is really good.


Just to keep all you guys informed. Cheers

Good info, thanks for postings. That's a good set of numbers, more  motorway capable than an Enfield but lighter and not far down on the power to weight ratio compared to the 700+ cc twins.

Andy

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2016, 08:56:48 AM »
Yes, interesting info. A lightweight bike with about 35 - 40 bhp is a recipe for fun in my book.....
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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2016, 11:45:12 PM »
If lightweight and poke interest you have a look at a KTM 390 Duke, take the 'graphics' off, stick an Akrapovič on it and .......... ;D

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2016, 06:53:18 AM »
If lightweight and poke interest you have a look at a KTM 390 Duke, take the 'graphics' off, stick an Akrapovič on it and .......... ;D

Toodle pip, Bill

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Re: MZ Silver Star - SWM
« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2016, 08:10:04 AM »
+2 (seriously thinking about getting one or a 690duke)