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Domi rear hub stress
« on: February 09, 2014, 11:05:19 AM »
Hi all. Hope someone out there can help me out, I,m in the process of grafting a domi rear wheel into my latest project. Can anyone please tell me if there should be an approx gap of around 5mm between the wheel hub and the final drive sprocket carrier or shud they be making contact with each other, there,s a "spacer" that's pressed into the sprocket carrier which is striking the spindle sleeve in the hub itself, which is then stopping the two mating up. The thing that leads me to think they should mate up is that the 5mm bit you can see between the hub and carrier is not painted black like the carrier n hub but is machined back as tho to slide into the hub. Any input gratefully accepted.  Regards moto63

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Re: Domi rear hub stress
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 07:39:39 AM »
Ay up.

Could do with posting a photo if poss.

I've seen the assembly when we cast our eye over it in your workshop. I've no knowledge of the dominator specifically but maybe there's a few checks which might help.

I don't know how far into the hub the machined portion on the carrier should go. From memory, is the spacer in the carrier actually a bearing with an extended inner race? If so a check on the part number would clarify it is the right one. Next check is that the bearing in the carrier is fully home. Next we could check the assembly when fully tightened up to see if the bearings in the hub are actually fully home and contacting whatever spacer is between them. A visual check on this also. (Check the wheel spins freely) Next we could measure the "vanes" to see how far they are protruding into the hub. See if it seems as though they should go further in.

If you have full overlap of vanes into rubber, everything looks/feels in order once you've nipped up the spindle and all the bearings check out to micro fiche, then I'd think its fine to go with it.

I can't imagine the machined portion is actually a "fit" into the hub, but just that the casting is "cleaned up" concentric to ensure there's no contact with the hub. But, yes, you'd expect it to protrude inside the hub to help keep rain/muck out. But I don't think they'd design it to come too close to the hub either.



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Re: Domi rear hub stress
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2014, 08:15:57 AM »
Morning propellor
Thanks for the reply, the thing that is making me wonder is that the bit that,s machined back was nice clean ally where as the hub and sprocket carrier were caked in grime when I got the wheel, so if the two had never mated together Shirley the "ally" bit wud also be caked in grime. If the two did mate together it wud give me an extra 5mm or so to play with which wud help with chain alignment . After 5mm is 5mm. Said th actress to the bike builder.  Ps hope the backs feeling better.  Cheers moto63

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2014, 10:18:36 AM »
Morning propellor
Thanks for the reply, the thing that is making me wonder is that the bit that,s machined back was nice clean ally where as the hub and sprocket carrier were caked in grime when I got the wheel, so if the two had never mated together Shirley the "ally" bit wud also be caked in grime. If the two did mate together it wud give me an extra 5mm or so to play with which wud help with chain alignment . After 5mm is 5mm. Said th actress to the bike builder.  Ps hope the backs feeling better.  Cheers moto63
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I predict much stroking of chin and drinking of tea. Best get the vernier warmed up.

Back holding up ta.
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Re: Domi rear hub stress
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 07:10:40 PM »
Hi propellor,
I was kind of hoping that someone out there in thumper land would have a dominator in the garage that they could just have a quick look at the rear hub and let me know if there is a 5mm gap between the hub and sprocket carrier, however it looks like I/we may have to do it the hard way. (now,t new there then) so yes you,d  best get the verniers warmed up and I,ll do the same with the kettle,  cheers

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Re: Domi rear hub stress
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 08:16:56 PM »
http://images.cmsnl.com/img/partslists/honda-nx650-dominator-1993-spainmkh-rear-wheel_bigecy2n41f__1300_99aa.gif

Looks like the carrier bearing doesn't have an extended inner race, but has a spacer. Wonder if all the spacers/brgs are seated correctly? I'm sure we can get to the bottom of it.

Ps; the welding work you did for me is working out great. Thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 08:25:17 PM »
There's a photo amongst this lot suggests your 5mm of cleaned up spigot is probably normal. He has other issues!

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252960&page=53
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Re: Domi rear hub stress
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 09:18:15 PM »
Hi propellor
Big thanks for the link. Yes judging by the photo it does look like the machined spigot is on show, least now I can go ahead and measure for some new spacers to be machined up. Shame about the guy in the photo,s hub, he had some serious "domi hub stress". Cheers again