Classics

[Andy M]

I know a few of the collective run older machinery so may be able to answer this one: What's going on with the pre-1960 MOT?

I see info on the web saying if it's 1959 you just need insurance and go. I see bikes on e-bay with a current MOT as a selling point. Sellers using the MOT as proof it runs or something else?

Cheers

Andy

[Mark]

Taxed a pre 60 Enfield online the other day, just had insurance  no mot, free tax disc back a week later.

So in answer to your question no MOT required on pre 60 vehicles.

Mark

[Smithy]

I suppose it depends on when the legislation took effect from. So those bikes with an MOT may have had that done before the start date of the new act.

[002]

Pre-1960 vehicles don't need an MOT.
But you can have one purely voluntary :-)

Jethro

[Furry John]

Pre-1960 vehicles don't need an MOT.
But you can have one purely voluntary :-)

Jethro

Which means you have something to show your insurance company that the bike was roadworthy? recently,

Furry

[002]

Pre-1960 vehicles don't need an MOT.
But you can have one purely voluntary :-)

Jethro

Which means you have something to show your insurance company that the bike was roadworthy? recently,

Furry

Very True.....hadn't thought of that one !

The idea behind the voluntary bit is.....owners of pre-1960 vehicles are enthusiasts....tend to look after the vehicles,are generally roadworthy and don't do a huge mileage. Generally !

Jethro

[Andy M]

So are the in-sewer-ants asking for this? Reintroducing the MOT off their own bat? Giving discounts? Refusing to cough up if you don't have one?

Andy

[Furry John]

So are the in-sewer-ants asking for this? Reintroducing the MOT off their own bat? Giving discounts? Refusing to cough up if you don't have one?

Andy

No it's purely voluntary, but it hopefully avoids the insurance companies coming up with their own tests/certificates of roadworthiness,
It will only take one company to say no MOT, not paying out!, for them all to try it. I prefer to take the easy way, there's a test with "Street Cred" lets use it.

Furry

[johnr]

insurance would be on a sticky wicket to refuse to pay out on a claim on a pre 60 bike due to no mot, what would be their excuse, if you comply with the law, unless their terms specifically stated that you needed one, how could they refuse. and lets not forget, a pre 60 vehicle on 2 or 54 wheels isnt going to be worthless even if its in a pile of boxes in bits, they arent likely to say, its worthless without an mot. heres my take on it all. i suspect that stricter mot regs are in the pipeline, and the dvla are clearing all the old stuff off their system to make it easier.

[Andy M]

Electronic stuff is coming. The current MOT standard can be fooled by taking the ABS warning lamp out of the holder, not good when your six year old VW is unstable without it. They'll plug in to OBD2 and see if they can cycle the system in diagnostic mode.

Andy

[Furry John]

insurance would be on a sticky wicket to refuse to pay out on a claim on a pre 60 bike due to no mot,

Sticky Wicket with whom, would you want to pay for a solicitor or whatever to take on an insurance company who claimed that whatever the law there is no proof of roadworthiness for your presumed valuable old lump unless it is MOTed at present, even the
Guaranteed value bikes could be at risk, are you telling me that there exists an insurance company with morals and humanity!!!

Furry

[johnr]

how could they refuse to pay out? if you were in complete compliance with the law and the terms of their own policy that you bought, and they refused to pay out, you wont need a solicitor, the insurance ombudsman is free and his decisions are binding. no classic insurance firm would ever take that step. the only way they could make it stick would be if they added a clause to their terms and conditions stating that even though the vehicle doesnt need one, they insist on a current valid mot to complete the cover, which would be an act of commercial suicide in the specialist classic vehicle insurance market because as soon as they did it, nobody would renew.

[Furry John]

how could they refuse to pay out? if you were in complete compliance with the law and the terms of their own policy that you bought, and they refused to pay out, you wont need a solicitor, the insurance ombudsman is free and his decisions are binding. no classic insurance firm would ever take that step. the only way they could make it stick would be if they added a clause to their terms and conditions stating that even though the vehicle doesnt need one, they insist on a current valid mot to complete the cover, which would be an act of commercial suicide in the specialist classic vehicle insurance market because as soon as they did it, nobody would renew.

I wish I lived in your world, you have a trust in the "system" I could never have. The "terms of their own policy" would no doubt contain something as required, I shall continue MOTing my bikes, Jethro will I hope, continue passing them if Ok, failing them if not. The rest of the vintage world will do one thing or another and await the "test case" hoping it is not them.
Furry

[002]

I wish I lived in your world, you have a trust in the "system" I could never have. The "terms of their own policy" would no doubt contain something as required, I shall continue MOTing my bikes, Jethro will I hope, continue passing them if Ok, failing them if not. The rest of the vintage world will do one thing or another and await the "test case" hoping it is not them.
Furry

Don't Worry.....I aint afraid to fail any fuckers bike !   Ask RobG.....have failed both of his ! 
Have given myself Advisories !  Number plate light not working !

Jethro

[guest987]

Yeah.......Bloody jobs worth.

Walking around your MOT bay with your clip board like a hairy version of Blakey from On the Buses.................

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BTW, I will drop the Bonnie up soon for it's MOT, hopefully next week.

Rob