Landrover hierarchy

[Richard]

And would a Discovery count towards being a Landrover or do we needs a points based system:

If so, I propose the following hierarchy

8.  Series One L/R

7.  Forward Control L/R

6.  Series Two

5.  Series Three

4.  Defender

3.  Discovery

2.  Range Rover

1.  Freelander

We would then have to think about the Bowler (I think it is anyway), 130 conversions and other weird stuff.  Santanas and those funny Dutch ones (thread covergence alert) also count.

[guest18]

The V8 Bowler Wildcat surely has to score 10+ if you can afford to feed it! 

[Mark]

Isn't there a Landrover forum you can talk sh1te on.

[Richard]

This is it !  Thumpers, petrol camping stoves and Landrovers.

[002]

Sorry.....Disco aint a proper Landy ! They got steel body parts,and rot a lot !

Leafers are...Deafners just about ! Freelanders...I beg your pardon ?
Now I wouldnt mind a Series 11B FC or one of the very few 88"Stage 1 that were built.
 
Dutch ? I know the Belgiums had the Minerva,Mmmmm maybe The Dutch,two wheel drive Series 1
I'll get my anorak 

Jethro

[guest18]

Isn't there a Landrover forum you can talk *******e on.

Yes but I'm comfy here  besides, if you'll allow stinkwheels then Landies are the least of your worries 

"They got steel body parts,and rot a lot !" you've not see my bulkhead have you?   

[guest295]

Obviously, none of you has sat on top of a mountain five hours' hard drive from the nearest repair facility with a Landy gearbox spread out on a groundsheet whilst trying to figure a way to get the bl**dy thing to work. Or had springs break due to putting something heavier than groceries in the back. Or spent time on a jungle track swearing at Joe Lucas whilst fettling that stupid fuel pump with the aid of a piece of sandstone. It's rubbish engineering applied to rubbish design. By contrast, the Austin Gypsy was bulletproof. Except the electrics, of course. The newer Landies are different, of course: they're marketed to women who use them to pick up the children from school, and for that they're well suited. But for rough country? Get a Toyota if you're serious.

[Richard]

Santana ?

[johnr]

wouldnt piss on a landy if it were on fire! bloody awful things, i wouldnt even call them agricultural, most agricultural stuff tends to be solidly built reliable and dependable. land rovers are utterly boggling, if they were made by anyone else but land rover, we would all call them fit to burn, but cos its a landy, then its 'character' or 'british engineering at its best' as has been said, if you want a 4wd barge for the road, by a mitsubishi, if you want a rugged dependable off roader that will never ever stop, buy a toyota. 1 million african mercenaries cant be wrong!!

[002]

Dont Care !   

 I like my Landy.....not been too unreliable for something approaching 30 year old next August.
Only had a real problem with a starter motor.

Jethro

[Mark]

Dont Care !   

 I like my Landy.....not been too unreliable for something approaching 30 year old next August.
Only had a real problem with a starter motor.

Jethro

When's the gearbox rebuild happening?

[Andy M]

I'm with John I'm afraid. I worked on Freelander, Discovery and Rangerover projects and won't be buying any time soon. Even Ford walked away in disgust. This isn't a case of not eating there because you've seen the kitchen, I'd buy anything made by Nissan up in Sunderland. Now that is proper British Engineering for the 21st Century.

Andy

[Ian]

Would you not be better off with a Fordson or Massey Ferguson......


PS...Is a chicken and stuffing Sarnie better than a Polony and lettuce with salad cream on.

Answers on a postcard

[guest18]

Defender 90's I've known have been thrashed senseless overloaded, abused, and still take our lads and kit where toyotas can't without a lot of mods, then back to base 400 miles up the motorway at 70mph. Yes lots of silly bits break (headlights, rear seats, trim etc etc) but it's rare in our experience to be *really* stuck.
If you want a 4x4 to drive on farm tracks, gentle off road or nip to the shops, yes, get a "soft" roader, or spend big bucks making a trooper or whatever *off* road capable, but for what we do the only real competition off the shelf would be a G-Wagen and my knees aren't up to being that nice to the bank manager 

The other factor in real (eg series / defender) landrover unreliability stories is they are being compared with vehicles 20 or 30 years younger than them (and I don't mean design, I mean build date), find me a 30 year old jap 4x4 to compare mine with (and I bet you'll struggle) and then we can argue about reliability 

[johnr]

but for every defender you can find with an unburstable motor, theres something like my mates 110, had it 7 years, had 2 gearboxes, 2 head gaskets, drive shafts, diffs, and various niggling oil leaks, core plugs brake and suspension problems. my brother has a shogun, same age as their landy, he lifts the bonnet to top up the washer bottle, and it gets serviced by the garage every year. never broke, nothing has ever stopped working, fallen off or failed down a farm track a mile from anywhere. its unburstable. i wouldnt have another landy given to me!