Most depressing reading for years

[guest7]

See this LINK

It's a collection of Facebook entries from US users, all saying that the recent earthquake was payback for Pearl Harbour.

It really saddens me that this sort of stupidity exists 

GC

[guest146]

I have never been to Japan but have great respect for the people They have values that the rest of the worl could do with using. They are in general polite nice people and this tragedy  is terrible. Makes me think why build a power station so close to a fault line though

Ken

[Steffan]

Makes you think when people start babbling on about nuclear as a clean eco source of power.

The world is full of wankers, some nations seem to have a greater proportion of vocal ones unfortunately.

[Mark]

It's all that 'free speech' ethos, and they are enforcing it on the rest of the world.

[Andy M]

These are just the current world empires proles (look at the spelling). Their world is pro-wrestling, daytime TV and enough doughnuts to keep them pliable and willing to send people out to grab more than their share. They'd be shouting U-S-A regardless.

My reading of the performance of the atomic power plant is the exact opposite to Steffans. This plant withstood a disaster a factor of ten higher than it was designed for and has so far put out the equivalent polution to each person within 20 miles having a CT scan. Compare this to the effects of burning down an oil refinery and they won't be very different to your health. Oil refinery fires simply don't have the scare factor, no one mentions agent orange and napalm (both oil based) but the press do so love pictures of Hiroshima. Half the population think a melt down is going to involve a mushroom cloud and the atmosphere catching fire. It would of course make more sense to build both the nuclear power plants and oil refinerys off the fault lines and supply the power remotely, but who'd want to rely on getting all their power from lunatics who might decide to turn it off (Like the Russians might do with our gas).

Andy

[Steve Lake]

I expect nothing less from the americans

I have no doubt there are perfectly sane, nice, thoughtful normal people in america.....just not many
in the 2 years i worked there i found them overbearing, thick, bigoted and thoughtless, and had absolutely no knowledge or interest of anyone or anywhere outside the wonderful U S of A.

i could rant for pages, but it's all been said, and it IS all very sad.

[themoudie]

Can't face the link! I suspect a rant event!

As for fuel, economy, etc, etc, etc, pass me the Elswick Hopper for transport.

As for the 'Big Society', get a grip, the world is a finite resource and we've outgrown it. Euthanasia and sterilisation are your only logical rationale.

See, I shouldn't have even have opened this tonight. Pigeon post rather than these 'Cyclops'!

Morose Bill.

[Dogbad]

I expect nothing less from the americans

I have no doubt there are perfectly sane, nice, thoughtful normal people in america.....just not many
in the 2 years i worked there i found them overbearing, thick, bigoted and thoughtless, and had absolutely no knowledge or interest of anyone or anywhere outside the wonderful U S of A.

i could rant for pages, but it's all been said, and it IS all very sad.

Those "Merkins " have obviously improved since I was there a few years back. I worked with a couple of decent ones but they had been travelling for a couple of years and believed in the World outswide America.

[beeman]

"Makes you think when people start babbling on about nuclear as a clean Eco source of power."



Trouble is with this statement it joins the, no coal powered stations due to pollution, no gas as running out and is expensive. Wind and natural resources as inefficient, inconsistent and supposedly expensive.

NIMBY rules all planning applications

They also want less hydrocarbon fueled vehicles and to use electricity to power transportation.
Any one have any idea how to square these views so that we can heat and light our homes and travel to work!!!

What we really need is a joined up plan incorporating all the available technology to create a long term plan. Not knee jerk reactions and 20 years in the planning schemes which are obsolete before they are built.


ooopppps I think this is becoming a rant.

[SteveC#222]

Like Bill I couldn't face reading it as I can guess what it's probably like. In my experience most ordinary people, regardless of Nationality, colour, race, religion or creed are pretty decent but sadly they all also have their share of Ar5eholes. The Americans sadly seem to have more than their fair share.  In my other hobbies I post on a number of American based websites and without exception the response to the tragedies in Japan have been nothing but horror and sadness - some are even organising fund raising to try and help. You can only hope that the people who post this sort of crap are the moronic minority.

Regarding renewable energy, I think that wave power needs to have more research done as it would seem to be the potential source of (relatively) cheap clean and permanent energy. This link was posted on one of the other forums I visit  and it is a very innovative idea.

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[Mark]

"Makes you think when people start babbling on about nuclear as a clean Eco source of power."



Trouble is with this statement it joins the, no coal powered stations due to pollution, no gas as running out and is expensive. Wind and natural resources as inefficient, inconsistent and supposedly expensive.

Hydro power is the way to go.

[beeman]

Yes I'm all for more research in hydro power.

The problem I see is that if we get it to work and it is cheap it will be opposed as against wildlife, ways of life or in a place of national importance or beauty (NIMBY).

The true answer is a combination of different ways all with their own advantages and disadvantages.

We also need to be implementing new ways of producing power now not in 10 years when our existing power stations are due to start being decommissioned.

I always remember an old plumber who fitted a central heating system to my dads house years ago.  He said there is no such thing as cheap heating.

beeman

[guest7]

And let's not forget that we don't just have to address to power production, the biggest chance of making a change in our consumption is to find ways of reducing the power we need.

A classic example is the low-energy light bulb. My house now demands, in total, something like 250watt for lighting. A few years ago that would have been the energy demand for two rooms.

Also, heating will never be cheap (as Beeman pointed out), so why waste it by having a poorly insulated home? Less loss means less input is required (unless, like Mrs Onepot, you think the surface of the sun is a bit chilly).

GC

[Mark]

And let's not forget that we don't just have to address to power production, the biggest chance of making a change in our consumption is to find ways of reducing the power we need.

A classic example is the low-energy light bulb. My house now demands, in total, something like 250watt for lighting. A few years ago that would have been the energy demand for two rooms.

Also, heating will never be cheap (as Beeman pointed out), so why waste it by having a poorly insulated home? Less lose means less input is required (unless, like Mrs Onepot, you think the surface of the sun is a bit chilly).

GC

And give up riding motorcycles,

GC I commend you on that one, I couldn't stop.

[guest18]

Tidal power is the avenue it surprises me we haven't embraced more, predictable years into the future and we have a good tidal range here (5 metres plus on springs, get your cheap gags here..)
As to Bills dream bike.. did you mean this;

or this?;


You do know a man with one of these in the shed if the petroil is getting a little pricey...