Author Topic: Motorcycle Action Group  (Read 11708 times)

OZ

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Motorcycle Action Group
« on: February 02, 2011, 09:36:46 PM »
Hi
I was wondering how many in the Thumper Club are members of MAG?

(If you don't know of them check out www.mag-uk.org )

If you're not, is there a reason you've never joined?
 
e.g. -a) you've never heard of them
        b) you can't be arsed
        c) you don't like them
        d) MAG members are knuckle dragging apes
        e) you'd only be prepared to spend £25 pounds if it guaranteed you got either pissed or laid.(Or both if you frequent Eastern Europe)

I'm not on a mission just interested in people's perception of MAG

More than happy to discuss opinions at the Dragon

OZ



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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2011, 10:11:43 PM »
im a mag life member, former mag rep for preston. lifelong supporter and will always be.

Andy M

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 10:17:48 PM »
A personal opinion only: Why join a group that is obviously ineffective? Wasn't the aim to get the helmet laws revoked? Don't we still have no choice in the matter?

I was a BMF member for a while. Then it struck me this really was just a talking shop and job creation scheme. Sorry if BMF put me off MAG but I can't see what either would do with my £25 that couldn't equally occur by going camping with the guys here.

Andy

Mark

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 10:24:33 PM »
I'm a MAG LITE owner, always will be(although my Petzl is good)

Have had good and poor experiences with MAG but I guess any lobbying and fighting for motorcyclists rights must be good purely for number representation seen by the Government
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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 06:43:21 AM »
I just don't have any faith in British politics and the lobbying movements. Can't get past the thought that all we end up with is lots of talking, lots of leaflets, lots of money spent on nothing of use and the government doing what it wants anyway. Far greater faith in greed and 'castle building' and wonder if those at the very top of the lobby groups have their own personal agendas that good willed members are duped into supporting.

I know, a cynical view, but working in the public sector can effect you that way.
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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 07:10:47 AM »
I just don't have any faith in British politics and the lobbying movements. Can't get past the thought that all we end up with is lots of talking, lots of leaflets, lots of money spent on nothing of use and the government doing what it wants anyway. Far greater faith in greed and 'castle building' and wonder if those at the very top of the lobby groups have their own personal agendas that good willed members are duped into supporting.

I know, a cynical view, but working in the public sector can effect you that way.

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 09:33:14 AM »
I'm not a "joiner".
I've found that pretty much all organisations end up being run by the committee, for the committee.
Been on committees at work, chaired them; most of those who volunteer to be on them just prefer yapping to working.

Cynical, me  ???

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 01:25:41 PM »
I'll have to go with the (b) option I'm afraid.

johnr

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 04:15:43 PM »
its been often admitted both by the politicos in westminster and brussels that the mag and fem lobbying is the most effective and well informed of all the many political lobbyists. problem these days is that politics is just so toxic as a mere word, that anything which has even a remote connection to anything political tends to be passed over with the same contempt as the current political parties. so some mp's are rogues, therefore, not only are all mp's seen as scum, but all workers for the govt in westminster, anyone who has any contact with them or who provides them with even the smallest service, is instantly tarred with the same brush. mag has had its problems, and there are always those who will slate mag over the helmet issue, and i cant see why? ok they didnt win over helmets, but refuse to back down on their founding principles, and if they did, the same folk who slated them for not winning the helmet fight would then slate them for not sticking to their guns. but if after all this time you think that mag is all about helmets and nothing else, then we really are talking to a brick wall. mag membership makes financial sense regardless of the political lobbying. you could not write a single email, post a letter or attend a single rally or demo, but still make financial savings on a range of things smply by joining mag. im not eulogising, but if you have a reason to not support the things mag has done, at least learn what it is that mag does. ::) ::)

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2011, 06:48:03 PM »
I wonder if it would be possible to mail a hard copy of one of the past issues of the Magazine to prospective members that would show them more than just a few promotional words?
I'd like to have a read and see if it's owt I'd put my money and trust with. ???

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2011, 07:18:05 PM »
pm me your address, and i will dig out a copy of the mag from somewhere. but look on the website at the numbers of discounts on everything from bike insurance to rally tickets as well as discounts from dealers for parts and spares, etc etc, you could easily make back the cost of membership from the discounts alone.

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2011, 08:24:42 PM »
, at least learn what it is that mag does. ::) ::)

Having read this thread I went and looked at both the MAG and BMF websites. The former is superior, it at least states what they'd like to happen and I'd agree with most if it (having to have a policy about not giving free beer to patch clubs who demand it with menaces is a tad worrying though). Neither states what they've achieved which makes me still suspect the one and only issue they've ever been on the winning side of was leg protectors.

If they published a list of their achievements I'd be more inclined to join.

Andy

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 09:20:17 AM »
Was a member of both MAG and BMF in my younger years for quite a while. I get that MAG are about more than the helmet laws, and that they were actually concerned about erosion of freedom of what to wear on the bike, not just helmets.
I let my membership to both lapse when there was a lot of infighting and it seemed incredibly unprofessional.

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 06:13:21 PM »
, at least learn what it is that mag does. ::) ::)

Having read this thread I went and looked at both the MAG and BMF websites. The former is superior, it at least states what they'd like to happen and I'd agree with most if it (having to have a policy about not giving free beer to patch clubs who demand it with menaces is a tad worrying though). Neither states what they've achieved which makes me still suspect the one and only issue they've ever been on the winning side of was leg protectors.

If they published a list of their achievements I'd be more inclined to join.

Andy

plenty of past actions and successes on their website, dig a bit deeper, theres a months worth of info if you have the patience to read it all.

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Re: Motorcycle Action Group
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 08:21:10 AM »
used to b a partt of mag, trouble was it was just like any other 'club'. the ride outs and the social side of things were quite good, but when it got took over by egotistical power crazed robbing scumbags with a massive attitude problem it all wehn to kaka. coincidentally the same people then went on to form their own bike club and took all the mag members with them, and profitted greatly from it too. not saying that i agree or diagree with mag, but on a local level its innevitable that it will become political and money motivted, two things that i really can't be dealing with when i'm out and enjoying myself.