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guest146

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Crash helmet
« on: May 08, 2010, 02:22:57 PM »
Its time I treated myself to a new helmet. Am I right in thinking there are helmets that can be used as a full face and also as an open face type. The ones I have looked at so far although the front flips up I got the impression its not legal to ride it this way.
Are there helmets that can do both jobs and if so what one do I need to be looking at.

Regards Ken

beeman

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Re: Crash helmet
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2010, 10:43:21 PM »
Interestingly most of the flip up helmets are not tested with the front them flipped up but I have often seen the police using theirs fully opened up. Apparently they have been tested with them down or with some types, with the front removed.
I have used them for 6-7 years and prefer them to fixed or open face helmets.
Some of them are more fashion than practical. For instance roof helmets look good but mist up too easily in cold weather.
I have even seen one that looks like a full lid but the bottom chin bar was really soft plastic, no idea what that was about.
There is also one open face helmet that has a solid bar for a chin guard
I use a caberg which I am happy with most of the time, it does tend to mist up and I wouldn't buy a matt helmet again. It has become very marked and looks shabby but has never been droped etc.
The best feature is that they have a flip down extra dark visor which is good to have when going into the sun. ( I have also been told that the observations of type 4 hazards can be more easily done with the dark visor down ;D)
Many of the flip helmets also have not been approved by ACU for track use.
I liked the shoe helmet but was more money than I could afford.
beeman
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Richard

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Re: Crash helmet
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 01:33:02 AM »

Some recent research which I must look up again to provide the reference, suggests that a rigid chin bar is dangerous in that it transfers the shock of impact in the chin to a sheering force to the top of the spine/base of the skull.  Which kills.

The soft chin bar may provide lower jaw protection without the added danger.

Another helmet manufacturer is looking at a slippery outer helmet skin to stop the helmet twisting the skull for similar reasons.

Richard
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mini-thumper

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Re: Crash helmet
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 07:21:01 AM »
Ken
I to, like Beeman, have a Caberg (Trip) which I bought specifically to do the BritButt Long Distance Rally. The main reasons I decided on a flip front, over-and-above keeping the grey matter intact, were the convenience of the built-in sun visor and not having to remove the helmet when buying fuel - some petrol stations still display the No Helmets sign and flipping the front saved the time /hassle of taking my helmet on and off. I think for the money, £95 a few years ago, they are a very good compromise. 

I tend not to use my Caberg much these days, preferring my trusty old Arai more for aesthetics than anything else, so if you want to borrow it for a try-before-you-buy test drop me a message.

Boyd

guest146

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Re: Crash helmet
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 06:11:29 PM »
I think this is what I need. More then i like to spend but it will be the first good one i have bought.

Thanks for the advice

http://www.helmetcity.co.uk/Shark-Evoline-Grey-Metalic_AKQ08.aspx


Ken

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Re: Crash helmet
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 09:32:21 AM »
I think this is what I need. More then i like to spend but it will be the first good one i have bought.

Thanks for the advice

http://www.helmetcity.co.uk/Shark-Evoline-Grey-Metalic_AKQ08.aspx

Ken,

I'm also considering the Evoline. It's £10 cheaper at http://www.thebikerstore.co.uk/Shark-Evoline-Glossy-SLV_AMFGH.aspx . Joining their club seems to just mean registering.


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KirriePete

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Re: Crash helmet
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 10:10:12 AM »
I've been a Caberg Justissimo man for a few years now.

Good points:

Flip-down 'jet pilot' dark visor for both of the sunny days we get here in Scotland.
Converts to an open face (using just a 2p coin for a screwdriver) for when you simply MUST go ZZ Top (see my avatar)
Easy to slip on and off while wearing specs, no poking legs past your ears.

Bad points:

Wind noise is a bit high - I'm deaf in one ear anyway, so that's only half a problem.
Flippy bit doesn't go all the way up and over, just to a standard visor level.

HTH