Author Topic: New Enfield  (Read 21338 times)

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #75 on: March 23, 2009, 09:32:39 AM »
How come the 270 costs 10bhp?  I thought the idea behind the 270 crank was to allow better balance and thus get rid of any balance shafts etc - has the balance of a 90° twin?

Is it actually a softer engine?

Tying back to the "if I had more money than sense" thread, I have oft thought if I were to get my Triton running a Norish 270° engine would be nice.

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Andy M

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #76 on: March 23, 2009, 11:44:09 AM »
The 270 engine is there to make it feel more like a Harley to cruiser riders on the America. In itself I didn't think it was detrimental. What they seem to have done then is set up the fueling or timing or something to give it a rougher feel and that results in less power. The 360 engine as you'd expect is more like a two-stroke single in that it will rev. Put the America engine set up with that high level exhaust and you loose 10 HP. You can cure it no doubt, but would be chipping/jetting putting a new exhaust on.

The Bonneville Black I have would cruise two up for the whole (poxy) tank range at 80 mph plus straight out of the dealers. It was fine in lane three of the M-1 or M-62 on a Friday night when shall we say the traffic moves. The Scrambler they lent me had a rather anti-social set of pipe, K&N filter and the like and didn't want to play on the motorway full stop. There wasn't enough left to make it worth doing more than picking a group of vehicles obeying the speed limit or less and sticking with them. The mechanic said that was a big improvement over the stock Scrambler.

I've ridden the Black on mud with and without knobblies and took the Scrambler up a few short tracks while I had it. IMHO there is nowhere the Scrambler will go that the Black won't so long as you don't mind the odd ding in the exhaust (which will in any case rot before your eyes and need replacing before the first MOT).

Hence, IMHO you are better off Scramblerising a Black at your leisure than buying what's really a dress up job from Triumph that wants mechanical mods.

Andy

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #77 on: March 23, 2009, 11:19:50 PM »
Having worked on all of the carb. equiped range of Bonnies I feel that it is the Exhaust that saps 10hp from the motor.
Those tight bends straight out of the head are to blame.
The same engine in the Speedmaster,also 270 crank and 860cc,has a lot more torque and poke.

The Scrambler is quite soft compared to the rest.

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