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Simon#83

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2009, 03:02:20 PM »
Sorry Simon,
It wasn't my intention to try to teach you to suck eggs  :-[

Have you considered the 660 MZs the Baghira does well as a motard or trail and the wishbones can be lengthened - frequently on ebay.  Just a thought.

Steffan


No problem!   ;D

I had thought about the Baghira and have had a few discussions with Smudge about his Mastiff. I'd always dismissed the Baghira because of its seat height, but I didn't realise it was possible to lower it. The 660 engine seems to have the pedigree in terms of power and reliability.

Off to Ebay to have a look around!

Perhaps we should start a new thread called perfect single cylinder rally bike!


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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2009, 03:25:39 PM »

I'm keen to understand the nature of the pre UCE bikes, especially with regard to built quality, comfort, etc. It seems from what you're saying though, they are a little fragile and need a lot of looking after.




The limiting factor in the old design is the metallurgy and as a result the tolerances and finishes and the choices they made in the lubrication. It's stuff they couldn't change on an Indian design budget of the 1980's. There are bits of sand cast iron and bronze and brass in there with cast surfaces and not enough oil. Hence, you get 500cc's making 18 hp tops and only able to maintain that for short periods. The standard Bullet's cruising speed is something in the order of 55 mph while top speed is something over 70, a much bigger differential than a modern bike. By the same reasoning as roughly made bits move about you'll have constant adjustments to make. It's nothing like as much as the owners club people like to talk about though, they are into adjusting pushrods as much as riding so you don't IMHO get the full picture.

Quality wise I found very little wrong with them, certainly better than a Ural. Comfort wise I think it's about as good as it gets.

If the EFI is a blank paper design as it seems to be, there is no reason it won't be able to put out 25 hp all day for a long time and hence cruise at 70. It'll have machining tolerances and materials that would have looked like science fiction in 1948. The worry to me is that they've cut corners and used bits of the previous motor. The fact it's unit construction to me suggests it is a totally new design though. The 5-speed gearbox they introduced was a bit of a practical engineering masterpiece, I just hope they applied the same ideas to the new motor.

I'd let someone else put a few thousand miles on one first and see how it fares though.

Andy

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2009, 04:12:35 PM »

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I'd let someone else put a few thousand miles on one first and see how it fares though.

Indeed! Akin to never buying version 1.0 of a software application. Let someone else iron out the bugs!
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« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2009, 10:56:05 PM »
This is indeed why I got the XT660Z, 700 smiles now and I've adjusted the chain once, oh and put fuel in it, oh and I've just adjusted the clutch cable a bit! :)
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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2009, 08:58:03 AM »
This is indeed why I got the XT660Z, 700 smiles now and I've adjusted the chain once, oh and put fuel in it, oh and I've just adjusted the clutch cable a bit! :)

Are you saying you've only done 700 miles since you got the XT?? You have been quiet ;)

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2009, 09:55:50 AM »

700 miles and you've had to adjust the chain already !!

Buy an MZ immediately, or a Guzzi.
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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2009, 11:39:08 AM »
2T of course.

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« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2009, 12:05:26 PM »
2T of course.

2t?!?  :o I think you'll find that chainsaws and scooters go rangdang dang and motorcycles go BRAAAAAP!  ;) :P ;D

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2009, 01:42:14 PM »
This is indeed why I got the XT660Z, 700 smiles now and I've adjusted the chain once, oh and put fuel in it, oh and I've just adjusted the clutch cable a bit! :)

You mean to say that you do this sort of thing yourself ? I get a chap in for that sort of thing ,far too busy. As for the fuel , once the thing is empty one simply buys a new one .

Come ,come now Steven .

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2009, 06:08:05 PM »
Ooooops meant to say 7000 miles, trouble free and frugal @60mpg.
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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2009, 09:28:01 PM »
Now that's more like it ;D
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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2009, 02:02:25 PM »
Hi Simon,
              There is a short write up on the 500 EFI in this months Motorcycle Sport & Leisure if you're interested.  They seemed to think it was pretty good. They said it got to 70 mph fairly quickly, but wether it would sustain that speed I wouldn't like to say.

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2009, 04:44:46 PM »
Hi Simon,
              There is a short write up on the 500 EFI in this months Motorcycle Sport & Leisure if you're interested.  They seemed to think it was pretty good. They said it got to 70 mph fairly quickly, but wether it would sustain that speed I wouldn't like to say.

Steve C

Thanks Steve. I think Bill might have mentioned this as well.

Coincidentally, I'm just reading an article in the March issue that caught my eye, about a trip on Bullet 500s (pre Electra/EFI) to the highest road on the planet in Nepal. Part 2 of the article is in the April issue.

Two good reasons to get it now!

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« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2009, 04:47:47 PM »
I'm just reading an article in the March issue that caught my eye, about a trip on Bullet 500s (pre Electra/EFI) to the highest road on the planet in Nepal.

Isn't that the road that the bloke rides in the film 'Solo to the Top of the World'?

I have to say that we really should go there one day. I reckon it has to be feasible to fly to India, buy a bike and ride the damn thing up there. Sell the bike after the ride and fly out again.

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Re: New Enfield
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2009, 04:52:40 PM »
Its a bit ambitious for the annual rally though ;D
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