Author Topic: Cheap mini-thumper  (Read 1556 times)

guest7

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Cheap mini-thumper
« on: October 26, 2006, 07:06:06 PM »
My brother just bought this for his commute (to save wear on his TDM):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160044640234&ru=http://search.ebay.co.uk:80/160044640234_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1

Say what you like about these Chinese cheapies, my neighbour has been commuting on his for nearly two years now.

GC

guest18

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Re: Cheap mini-thumper
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 10:43:21 PM »
So how did he get on with the chinese bike? Does he still have it? How did it last? If not what failed/why'd he get rid?

guest7

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Re: Cheap mini-thumper
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 10:48:46 PM »
Stil has it, although it recently stopped (I forget why). He hasn't had time to work on it so I can't say what the problem is/was.

He got over a year's commuting out of it and he loved it.

GC

guest18

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Re: Cheap mini-thumper
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 11:04:54 PM »
Interesting... our local shop (which is run by a couple of mechanics who tell the truth and do good work!) have started stocking Daelim(?) 125's. I suspect as the price is so much better than a CG125 (they are Honda dealers) at about £1400ish otr.
Chatting to the mechanic he reckons the finish is iffy but performance is what you would expect from a 4t 125 and they have had no mechanical probs surfacing so far.

Looking at the diesel options, there is fantastic economy available, but only if you homebuild as no-one seems to be selling a purpose built unit. So I guess if you want economy it's gotta be a thumpette of some sort until the manufacturers see the light (or WW3/global warming/global recession finishes off all the fossil fuels!  :P )

Haven't managed to find any *real* economy figures but I would expect somewhere between 90 and 120mpg if it's comparable with the CG  ??? At that price, given my commuting mileage is around 10k a year it would pay for itself in saved fuel in around 3 years...(compared to the MuZ at 50mpg) so it would need to last three years/30,000 miles to cover it's purchase cost in saved fuel.
Of course there is the cost of insuring and taxing, tyres bulbs oil etc... but the tyres etc are being saved on the main bike... and trust me the tyres on a mastiff are not cheap  :-[

At these sort of figures I am wondering if perhaps I need to consider a dedicated commuting bike  :o

Hmmmm  ???

Andy M

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Re: Cheap mini-thumper
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 08:17:45 AM »
Been doing the sums myself. The MZ is cheap on everything except petrol but will eventually wreck another piston and they are geting harder to find. A £3500/€6000 Diesel Bullet has payback at something like the seven year mark if nothing major breaks. A DIY Diesel is going to be about £2000 for the bits, so payback would be under four years. However i'd need to buy things like a pillar drill and get welding and powder coating done and it could turn into an expensive, unreliable mess. I found a dealer selling Diesel conversion kits he claims can be fitted with hand tools, but he's in India  :-\ The safe reliable solution IS a 4 year old 125-250cc Japanese mini-thumper with a payback under 3 years. Not what I wanted to hear, but I think true  :(

Now holding out for a company car and payrise to buy the Diesel  :)

Andy

andy230

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Re: Cheap mini-thumper
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 10:26:44 AM »
but the tyres etc are being saved on the main bike... and trust me the tyres on a mastiff are not cheap  :-[

Hmmmm  ???

I just put a set of tyres on the DR.  Distanzia' s at 140 quid.  It hurts!!  But the joy of new tyres is hard to put into words!  Why would anyone want a supermoto, when standard wheels and tyres make a lovely bike!  (which cast a tenner more than the tyres!)

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ps.  Thanks Steve D for the last pair of Michelin Anakee's.  They lasted about 5 or 6 thousand miles.

guest18

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Re: Cheap mini-thumper
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 05:51:30 PM »
Because I get the advantages of a trailie with the brakes and grip of a road bike? Always seems a waste putting knobblies (or kid on knobblies) on a trailie over about 400 to 500cc as it's too big for someone of my (limited) abilities to use off road and the "semi" off road tyres are useless off road. So you get less grip and faster wear than an equivalent "touring" compound tyre, and most never get dirty anyway...

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squirrelciv

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Re: Cheap mini-thumper
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2008, 09:02:39 PM »
but the tyres etc are being saved on the main bike... and trust me the tyres on a mastiff are not cheap  :-[

Hmmmm  ???

I just put a set of tyres on the DR.  Distanzia' s at 140 quid.  It hurts!!  But the joy of new tyres is hard to put into words!  Why would anyone want a supermoto, when standard wheels and tyres make a lovely bike!  (which cast a tenner more than the tyres!)

a

ps.  Thanks Steve D for the last pair of Michelin Anakee's.  They lasted about 5 or 6 thousand miles.

£140 for Distenzias!!!! Should have rung M&P under £90 delivered ;D
Live long, live well, live happy

andy230

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Re: Cheap mini-thumper
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2008, 02:02:34 PM »

£140 for Distenzias!!!! Should have rung M&P under £90 delivered ;D


 :'(   scotsman is in tears!

Really??  90 quid for two tyres delivered???  That really is very good...

And Smudge, I agree.  Yes, the milage from them is crap.  But I cant fault the grip.  It just doesn't slide (even gassing thru the corners). Or weave over white lines any more.

Although yes, they are kid-on knobblies.  And yes, they're not up to much (anything) off-road.  And yes, I hear you about the brakes!!  Thank you...!


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