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guest18

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More Diesel
« on: February 05, 2008, 06:48:29 PM »
Ok having already covered about 140miles of commuting/necessary travel this week and with petrol well over a quid a litre I read the thread about the diesel bikes and wondered...

Anyone on here got one?
Any ideas for suitable donor engines? (ie more suitable than a rotovator engine that can just about make 40mph!)

Who's ridden the various Enfield conversions, are they really *that* slow?!? Is there a better alternative?

Surely there must be a little car engine somewhere that could be squeezed in... (is there a diesel smart car? ??? )

Over to the spanner wielding masses...  ;D

ps. I heard somewhere that BMW were looking into making a diesel bike, anyone know anything about that or is it just rumour?  ???

andy230

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 07:55:05 PM »
...I am listening too...

Funny that, that the Scots are interested in diesel bikes...  We're going to get some stick for this, Smudge!!    :D

I am thinking about a cement mixer engine in the DR.  Obviously will require a pre-unit gearbox, but that shouldn't be a problem?

Although I do have a Norton twin motor (to go with the box).  I like the idea of a "British" Supermoto    ;D

Which I will entitle the "Super MoFo", to use the street parlance of the day.

I'm off to make pancakes   :-*

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 08:03:48 PM »

a friend of mine has a new toyota yaris 1.4 turbo diesel.

64MPG!

he drives normally, but doesn't commute and the MPG is on the rise as the motor 'frees up'.

its a three pot and does have a muted Triumph sound comming from it, so it might be possible to have a derv bike that actually sounds good.

if i could get the same mpg and performace from a bike that this little car gives i'd buy one.

its not slow either, just over 110mph is possible.

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 08:36:38 PM »

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 08:46:22 PM »
Maybe this Kubota tractor unit is more the 'style', or do you think the Yaris has caught up now?

http://www.rqriley.com/cent.html

Triumph 'Spitfire' chassis must be getting thin on the ground now.

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Dave#22

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 08:47:42 PM »
Hi Smudge, I seem to remember an article in BIKE mag last year on a prototype bike built around a 3 cylinder turbo diesel Volkswagen Polo engine, in line with BMW type gearbox and shaft drive. It may have been Dutch, but I can't remember.
I was down at Stafford a couple of years ago and a bloke had put an air cooled diesel single into an AJS....and it sounded like a dumper truck.
Also the little Froggy cars (Aixam?) are available with a 500cc twin diesel engine and cvt auto trans.
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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 09:46:53 PM »
Oh for Mr Creasey and Mr Newall with the Voyager, Phasar layout and the Polo 3cyl layout in place of the Reliant 'Austin 7'! Might be some happy faces about. ;D

Just a thought, little 'pink cloud' moment!

Bring on some Floyd.

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 09:52:45 PM »
A mate of mine briefly owned a part finished project consisting of a Dnepr rolling chassis fitted with a three cylinder Diahatsu diesel (900CC?)running through a Dnepr kickstart gearbox  :o  I believe he did have it running ( Bas%$*d to start though) but sold it on before it was finished.. I think it ended up in Germany. He later had a dnepr outfit with a Morris minor engine for some time known as Hardly Decent which i think is still around.
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SteveC#222

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 10:07:17 PM »
In fact there is a page full of them here

http://www.dieselbike.net/dnepr.htm
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guest7

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 11:08:20 PM »
I've ridden an enfield diesel and it wasn't too bad up to 55mph. But that was all you could get.

I'd love a diesel engined sidecar outfit, but I'm not sure I could cope with the constant hassle every time I tried to fill it up
(Tannoy voice) "Pump number three, pump munber three, stop! you are filling your motorcycle with diesel"

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Andy M

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2008, 08:22:13 AM »
There is a yahoo group. Lots of talk about ex-stationary engines and Kart type torque convertors. The problem is that diesels small enough are designed to be static. This means they are either on or off, which in turn means 5 gear changes up to 25 mph then just ride the throttle.

There is a company in Germany putting twin static diesels into Ural's. The price was stupid.

I still want one!

Andy

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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2008, 08:58:26 AM »
Hasn't anyone seen these diesel quad bikes that farmers use? Single cylinder and they fly! Electric start but shaft drive, now that would fit in a trailie nicely.
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guest18

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2008, 04:45:03 PM »
Hasn't anyone seen these diesel quad bikes that farmers use? Single cylinder and they fly! Electric start but shaft drive, now that would fit in a trailie nicely.
See you at the Beerfest (Dragon)
SteveD

NOW you're talking! Got any makes/models? Should be ideal for conversion because they'll already have a useable gear/rev range and be built to more or less fit in a bike layout...
Squeeze one of these into a small traily / roadbike and that could work very well!  8)

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2008, 06:20:31 PM »
Hasn't anyone seen these diesel quad bikes that farmers use? Single cylinder and they fly! Electric start but shaft drive, now that would fit in a trailie nicely.
See you at the Beerfest (Dragon)
SteveD

NOW you're talking! Got any makes/models? Should be ideal for conversion because they'll already have a useable gear/rev range and be built to more or less fit in a bike layout...
Squeeze one of these into a small traily / roadbike and that could work very well!  8)

Found this;

      http://www.dieselquads.com/




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bullet350

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2008, 06:31:33 PM »
er, £6500 for 26bhp!

a 26bhp enfield would give about 75mpg, and would cost a third of that.

or a cg125 with 100mpg.

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