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guest18

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2008, 07:31:07 PM »
er, £6500 for 26bhp!

a 26bhp enfield would give about 75mpg, and would cost a third of that.

or a cg125 with 100mpg.

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Exactly the problem unless mainstream manufacturer/s build a sensible diesel bike (Or even a sensible petrol bike who's performance/economy could better a Royal Enfield designed in nineteen fluff ffs  ::) )

Was daydreaming the other day and wondering how the Hayes engine from the KLR in an MZ tour rolling chassis would work... bl**dy marvelous I should imagine! If only Kawasaki had the imagination and the bottle to steal a march on the rest of the industry...
Or they would even sell us the engines at a reasonable price and let us make our own! (yeah I know, it'll never happen  :( )

guest18

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2008, 07:37:09 PM »
U 2 can B an ANORAK! ;D

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1840648651

lol, I don't need the book to be an anorak Bill, despite my current employ, amongst my further education was an HNC in Automotive Management, another HNC in Auto management with Automotive Engineering and an NC in Auto Engineering... and swmbo is a professional Transport Planner  :o
Part of the reason I find the fuel consumption of bikes so offensive is that I understand the reasons and have a decent idea what can and can't be done (and don't start me on the industries "safety improvements" for cars...  >:(      ;) )

guest27

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2008, 01:19:34 PM »
Could just buy the Yanmar engine as used in the quads - mind they cost nearly as much as the quad...

LOL

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Andy M

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2008, 07:46:53 AM »
 The Chinese make a Yanmar "Clone" that's the basis of most home builds. Drive either a surplus brit/harley/Ural/BMW separate gearbox or a Kart type torque convertor and Roberts your aunts husband. Whole lot off e-bay comes in about £1500 on a good day, then you need to weld up a mounting set.

Andy

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2008, 02:04:36 PM »
still dear, but its getting to be a bit more realistic...

This guys had a good bash at it.  Looks pretty good...

http://www.dieselbike.net/AndrewsRoyalEnfield/AndrewsRoyalEnfield.htm

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« Last Edit: February 08, 2008, 02:10:25 PM by andy230 »

guest146

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2008, 08:29:52 PM »
I have often thought about this subject. The problem is that most single cylinder Diesels don't rev very high and are not very powerful and would shake your teeth out. I keep looking at the vehicles I work on at work like the latest vauxhall combo 1.3 very light 16 valve and go like hell. The block is not much heavier than a good motorcycle and the rest of the engine is mostly alloy. Then only problem comes in sorting out the engine management as all new vehicles these days have very complex ECU and security systems and this would take a lot of sorting out and you need  expensive equipment to do this. I think the Kubota small engines are nice and compact but I don't think there would be enough power to make a useful bike engine.

http://www.dieselmotorcycle.co.uk/

Ken

Hondapartsman

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2008, 10:21:18 AM »
I remember seeing something on one of the Sky channels last year or maybe the year before, where there was a diesel engined bike being made for the US Military. I can not remember the make or anything but it looked like it went pretty well.

guest18

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2008, 01:41:23 PM »
Yup that's the diesel engined KLR, the Yanks have been using it for iirc about 5 years now, here it's still under testing  ::) no doubt because the mod played with the spec/design to save a couple of quid and/or tried to change it to make it all things to all soldiers instead of just paying for a tried tested and effective design...

"smart procurement"... don't get me started  >:(

themoudie

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2008, 11:25:29 PM »
What ho Smudge,

Damned good of you old chap not to be to rough on some of the brass, Whaaaaat?

They'll re-badge it the Euro-Bike or maybe Diesel-TSR2 ::)

Of course we could always purchase the Indian Army Enfield version with some 'lightweight' Lister engine in place!

Off for another gin-sling and the bungalow in the warm foothills of the Hymarliars, Whaaaaat?

Toodle pip, Hinge.

guest18

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2008, 11:42:53 PM »
Was typing a long involved answer here but we're getting off topic in a way I don't want to  :o

So back to the subject, diesel is unfortunately not a viable option yet, so I am looking at a used CG125, they are a known quantity and I could get a good used one a chunk cheaper than a new copy of unknown provenance.

65 mph (give or take) and an average generally of around 100mpg (although the one I used for a while for despatching was returning an *average* of 120mpg used for town work!) That's not too far away from some diesel conversions but with no insurance issues, spares off the shelf and everything easy...

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Re: More Diesel
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2008, 12:45:00 AM »
I ken what you mean! ;)