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RonXBR

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Out on the bikes.
« on: November 18, 2018, 10:00:01 PM »
Took advantage of the sunny and dry day to get a run out on both the Royal Enfields back to back. First chance I've had to take them for a longish distance to compare. Two hour circular route on mostly B type roads, with a tea and traybake stop halfway. Same route for both bikes. The GT is the better bike with extra poke and more modern handling, brakes and suspension. Nice sound from the aftermarket exhaust. But I found the 350 Bullet with RH gearchange and classic "feel", more satisfying to ride. Took me back to the days when I had hair and didn't have to suck in my belly to check what was underneath. All in all, great day out, with two goes in the tea shop.

Ron.

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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2018, 07:45:07 AM »
Good photos Ron, looks like you live in a cracking place with that as your backdrop. Oh and I like the bit about your hair (or lack of ) and the bit about having to suck ya belly in, gave me a giggle 👍👍
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RonXBR

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Re: Out on the bikes.
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2018, 11:23:46 AM »
I'm in Bangor (the Northern Ireland one), so my Sunday afternoon is around the Ards Peninsula. Down the outside, Irish Sea side, then up the inside with Strangford Lough on my left. Usually quiet roads with a few villages along the way. A few watering holes as well. Bit more about the bikes. The GT had only done 600 miles when I bought it, the first owner having made mostly cosmetic changes. The rear shocks are now Hagon units, so I've no idea if the originals were not up to the job. Think it was more about style than function. The 350's comfortable speed is 50-55 mph, with little vibration so perfect for the kind of roads I use. It' still on the points system which I thought to change right away to electronic ignition. But it starts 1st or 2nd kick, runs well and has an even tickover. If anyone has done the changeover, was it worth it? Fair old gap between 3rd and 4th gears but that's how it is. Very pleased with both bikes, and hope to get a few more days out, before the road salt starts going down.

Ron.
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Smithy

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Re: Out on the bikes.
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 11:37:36 AM »
Lovely bikes and a lovely looking day out. I had a 2006 pre-unit 350 Bullet and I now have the 2016 mighty Enfield and echo your observations about the modern Bullets. However unlike you I would not willingly choose to go back to the 350, for me it was too slow and lacked torque. It does sound like we ride the same kind of roads so long live personal choice.

Riding a nice bike, stopping a tea stops and seeing lovely countryside; perfect.

Ian

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Re: Out on the bikes.
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2018, 11:54:03 AM »
Are the rear shocks not on upside down on the GT Ron?

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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 06:23:40 PM »
Nice couple o mo sheens.

I'd be tempted to keep the points system. Wish I could have points on my new one tbh.  Simple is best.

Back roads are where it's at for me too. As I like to say, B roads are my motorways. 😂

Good riding all. 👍
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Re: Out on the bikes.
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2018, 01:22:26 PM »
If the HAGON label is the right way up then that must be the way they are intended to be mounted.  Not sure it makes any difference on a pressurised shock anyway.  Both look nice anyway, although think I preferred the Honda myself!

RonXBR

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Re: Out on the bikes.
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2018, 01:42:55 PM »
Yeah.

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2018, 07:03:37 PM »
I'm sure the difference is slight, but the theory is (I believe) that you can take advantage of the pressurised design and mount the heavier part of the shock as part of the sprung mass, as opposed to the unsprung mass. I think that's the main reason the label is that way up.
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RonXBR

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2018, 08:03:32 PM »
Think I've got my head round that. Is that also the reason most top sports bikes run with upside down front forks? Keep the answer fairly simple, I'm a practicing idiot. Steve makes a good point. For arguments sake, say a bike has the perfect suspension set up for all conditions. Surely that means it doesn't matter what way it is mounted.

Attachment is of a Hagon 2810 fitted to a Honda CB750, but opposite way to my GT.

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2018, 10:18:41 PM »
The simple answer is that on the honda the mounts at one end are a fork and the other end an eye. Why hagon put it that way I'm not sure. Depends if the shock is pressurised. Another guess is that it might be to do with clearance around the chain? I'm guessing.

Regarding usd forks I believe the main advantage is of stiffness and lower overall weight. Probably a reduction in unsprung weight as well.   
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2018, 06:25:47 AM »
Check out the Ducati designed and built by lefas

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RonXBR

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Re: Out on the bikes.
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2018, 11:12:22 AM »
Check out the Ducati designed and built by lefas

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Ron.