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timbo

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« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2017, 08:21:56 PM »
Wow! That's some amount of Italian scooters, bikes, and cars. Thanks for posting Rossco  :)
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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2017, 10:55:49 PM »
Well, there's a thing, as far as I'm aware, the Lanc 'only' had the 4 merlins (or griffons), generators were run directly from the main engines, along with twin magneto's (2 plugs per cylinder, each plug run from a  different mag), the wiring loom was a bit of a nightmare.
I only know this, as during my raf service, I worked on the Shackleton (mk2's & 3's), running the griffon , (which is where most spares come from for the remaining spitfires and lancs come from).

the Mk3 'shack', did have additional power units .... 2 PETROL (well, Avgas actually, 105 octane) jet engines at the rear of the outboard engine nacelle ,  , beastly machines, which the aircrew hated, and were used for takeoff with full fuel load, and needed because of the huge amount (and weight) of the 'avionics' on board ... i.e. sub
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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2017, 10:59:43 PM »
'i.e. sub'  should read .... i.e. sub hunting equipment... MAD (forrunner of the mri) scanners believe it or not etc etc

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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2017, 11:10:03 PM »
And another thing.....
The 'Lanc' at East Kirby 'may' be airworthy by the the time you get there, they are aiming for an airworthiness certificate sometime in 2018... funds permitting..... as far as I'm aware they now have 4 certified engines (by all accounts RR charge a HUGE amount for a full refurb on a griffon or merlin, then give the job to the apprentice school  ??? )

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« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2017, 05:22:41 PM »
The Yanks flew the B36 in the '50's. Six 28 cylinder piston engines (4 rows of 7) with 56 spark plugs each plus 4 jet engines.

The Brabazon airliner had eight 18 cylinder engines.

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« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2017, 06:27:02 PM »
And another thing.....
The 'Lanc' at East Kirby 'may' be airworthy by the the time you get there, they are aiming for an airworthiness certificate sometime in 2018... funds permitting..... as far as I'm aware they now have 4 certified engines (by all accounts RR charge a HUGE amount for a full refurb on a griffon or merlin, then give the job to the apprentice school  ??? )

I was speaking to one of the engineers last year and as I understand they have the engines but the need to get the air frame passed as airworthy which requires parts of it being x-rayed for stress fractures.
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« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2017, 08:06:37 PM »
A group of us visited Scaleby Hill Motorcycle Museum last Friday, having heard it mentioned on this forum. This is the collection of ex bike racer, Mike Barry, situated in Cumbria, between Brampton and Longtown. Unfortunately Mike was on the IOM at the pre TT racing, but his wife very kindly opened up for us specially. Hottest day of the year son far, it was hotter in the shed than outside! Entrance is £4, and well worth every penny. Great mix of bikes, with a particular focus on 1930s Coventry Eagles. 01228 675117
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« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2017, 08:16:16 PM »
Gayle Mill, Hawes. Tours are 1pm and 3pm, price £6. Ive always wanted to visit this place since seeing it featured on the original Restoration, presented by Griff Rhys Jones. It was then on the series where Guy Martin went round the country helping restore old machinery, in this case, the 1897 water turbine which powers the mill. What I hadn't realised/remembered, was that the copy of the original 1839 Velocepede, was made at Gayle Mill, for Guy to test out riding down the steep hill outside. This Velocepede is also on display. First Sunday of every month, there are demonstration tours, lasting two hours, were all the machinery is running. These are at 11 and 2.30, and cost £12. 01969 667320
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« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2017, 09:06:33 PM »
It seems there's not much happening on here at the minute, so here's a picture of a tank, but what is it.......?
And here's another......?

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« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2017, 10:46:03 PM »
Aye tim,

First image, not a clue!  :(

Second image, its a Panther, in it?  ;) As per Bruce the Essex arms dealer from Quest TV fame.

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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2017, 12:23:31 AM »
isnt the first image an spg(self propelled gun) rather than a tank? or perhaps a tank killer, non rotational turret denotes that its probably designed to be used as fixed artillery rather than mobile fighting piece.

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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2017, 12:25:48 PM »
The second one is indeed a Panther. A kind of cross between a Panzer IV and a Tiger. A very good tank by all accounts, but not very reliable, as per most tanks.
The first one is a Tortoise. British, huge, and never went into production. But is it a Tank, SPG, or a Tank Destroyer? Let's have a heated debate  ;)
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« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2017, 05:21:00 PM »
The one in the background I think is a Ram; Canadian take on a Sherman?

I think the Tortoise may be an assault gun although I doubt in reality you get to shout "excuse me Erwin old mate, would you mind not doing the tank think, I'm not a tank destroyer".

The Swedish S tank I think was also not a tank as it couldn't fire on the move.

One I didn't fancy at Bovington was the Archer. A Valentine chassis with a 17 pounder bolted to the engine deck. The drivers head rests on the loading tray. When he's backed into the firing position be has to jump out before the gunner pulls something and the recoil decapitates him  :(

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« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2017, 09:56:12 AM »
The Tortoise weighed 78 tonnes, and was a Heavy Assault Tank designed to take out heavily fortified positions such as concrete blockhouses. Apparently, a well thought out concept, its development was too late as the war ended, so there was no need to put them into production. This is the only one in existence, the others being blown to bits as targets for training.
My understanding, is that tanks are combat vehicles which work on line of sight, and so have to be mobile and heavily armoured. They usually have turrets, but not always.
SPGs are lightly armoured as they don't go into battle, but are mobile artillery pieces, that fire from well behind the front line, in groups, putting down bombardments up to 20 miles away. There eyes and ears are forward observers, who report back their success or not. Some SPGs don't even have a roof, but are open.
Tank Destroyers I'm not clear about. Low profile, huge gun, no turret, and the clues in the title.
I think that is a Canadian Ram in the background, Andy. And my understanding of the Archer, is that the British tanks were seriously under gunned with 40mm 2lbr pea shooters, so desperately needed to put a big gun on a tracked chassis, hence the Archer.
The Tank Museum at Bovington in Dorset, is probably my favourite museum of all. So far, I've spent three full days in there, and still have more to see. A few hours in there would only scratch the surface. They reckon, just with the existing stuff they have in storage, they've another 400 years worth of restoration!
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« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2017, 10:02:27 AM »
Yes, fantastic place to wander round. I last went about 30 years ago with a now sadly departed mate and he enjoyed it so much he ended up getting into the military vehicle rally scene with an old Bedford flatbed army truck and an MT500.

Do they still do running days I wonder?
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