MZ Silver Star - SWM

[manxie]

I was googling the MZ Silver Star which I like very much and came across the SWM seen here.....

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2014/11/swm-and-the-simple-single-more-thoughts/

Very nice indeed, may look better with a more rounded tank IMHO, they also do a nice looking "street scrambler". What`s your thoughts on SWM? I may look into them further and see what p/x I could get on my Fazer 

[Moto63]

Evening Steve , i do believe that crazy frog has an mz silver star?? Which I personally had never heard of until I started e mailing him about an engine I was buying off him. I had to google the silver star model...nice, I also like the swm in the pic you've posted...cheers, Michael

[manxie]

Evening Steve , i do believe that crazy frog has an mz silver star?? Which I personally had never heard of until I started e mailing him about an engine I was buying off him. I had to google the silver star model...nice, I also like the swm in the pic you've posted...cheers, Michael

Hey Michael. I`d never heard of the Silver Star either but remember seeing one for sale a while back so did a search for it....nice!! The SWM`s look a bit expensive though but has anyone had any experience with them? Is it their own engine? Cheers, Steve

[Propellor]

I like the look of the SWM in the profile shot you posted. Never heard of em before.

[manxie]

Another pic added .... cool 

[guest1247]

It appears that Mash motorcycles first copied the Honda CL400, ( you can all google that ), and now a couple of years later, SWM are doing likewise. If you really wanted to take a close look Steve, ( Manxie ), mine will be on the island for this years TT..... and then will more than likely be disposed of..... It is 18 years old and gets invited to be displayed, regularly. Take a look at the real deal, and not a Chinese copy.... Parts have never been a problem.... I wonder if the same can be said of Mash and SYM in 18 years time...?  Regards, Tony

[Moto63]

I like the look of the SWM in the profile shot you posted. Never heard of em before.

I used to have a mate back in the very early 80's who had an swm trials bike, think the lad (bloke) lives near you prop, he's called chris gravestock plumber. Pas far as I'm know they are/were an Italian setup that built them. Not sure if it's the same outfit that are producing the single in the pic that Steve (manxie) posted. Anyone know??? ...cheers

[manxie]

Good question Michael. Sorry Tony, you are losing me a bit here but I am a bit tired  From what I can gather, SWM are Italian and have been around for years, I remember SWM trials bikes in the 70`s. Not a Chinese Sym? Is it the CL you are coming over on?? Cheers, Steve. (excuse me if I`m being stupid)

[Richard]

Silver Stars would occasionally turn up at MZ rallies in days of yore.

Very nice 500 singles, much like the Matchless I always thought.

[guest1247]

Sorry about the typo Steve..! I wrote sym, but I meant SWM... The top end of its engine, and frame looks remarkably similar to the Honda Cl400... ( so does the Mash )... Just to confirm, I will be at the TT , staying at Quarter  bridge camp site, ( is that also the rugby club ? ). I will be on the new Italian stallion, a friend will be on my CL400... You are most welcome to cast an eye over it . Regards, Tony

[manxie]

I see, got you now  Not sure about the camp site, I would say it was on the rugby pitch, or behind the QB pub on the NSC grounds?? My money would be on the rugby pitch though! Lets hope it`s dried out now, that was "feet" deep in the floods 
Don`t worry, it looks dry 

[Moto63]

Hi all.....yes, as far as I know the swm company was created in the very early 70's not sure which year tho sorry. I think from memory my mates bike had a rotax based engine in it, but I can't be absolutely sure of that. It was defo a two stroke tho, that I do remember.   Cheers...Michael

[manxie]

This is taken from the link I attached ......

although most of SWM’s models feature liquid-cooled Husqvarna engines (engines used by Husky before KTM’s owner acquired the brand), these air-cooled engines have the same bore and stroke as a “big bore kitted” Honda XR 400 engine (an “XR 440” if you will).....

so, is it a Honda or simply just the same "bore and stroke" as an XR 400 ?? Clear as mud........

[CrazyFrog]

I like the look of the SWM too, and even if it does use a Chinese engine, I'm not sure I'd let that put me off. After all, the big four subcontract stuff out to China these days and the smaller KTMs are made in China too.

Yes, I have a SilverStar  , and it is obviously very similar to a Harris Matchless, but maybe a little bit smaller, and a bit better looking IMHO. SilverStars also have electric start which is good, as I've not managed to start mine on the kickstart yet   

[manxie]

Hey CrazyFrog, sounds good. They look a lovely bike, silver stars that is. Any chance you could post a pic or two of it, it would be good to see it  cheers, Steve.