oh aye, ive still got all my kats. even thought they were sniffing round all the time, i was always a step ahead of them, so in almost 20 years, they only got away with one bike, and that was right at the beginning before i learned my lessons on security! they were always more interested in off roaders, peds and step thrus, so i would chain the bikes up, then chain them together with a seperate lock, then chain the loops together and through an iron anchor i built into the wall, these were behind a 7 foot gate, tripple locked, hinges secured (the oldest trick in the book that folks miss with big gates is that you can lift the hinges off no matter how many locks you fit at the other end) the gate had spikes on top, at the side the car port had panels down to below the level of the fence panels, the fence panels were screwed in place, and also were alarmed so they wouldnt be able to lift the panels out unnoticed, the whole lot was lit from the centre facing out by 2 500w floodlights on passive infra red detectors. the garage was even more secure with alarms, iron gates over the wooden doors, more locks, bolts, security lights etc, and yet they continually tried it on. however, im strangely grateful. it taught me a lot about security and how easy it is to make things very tricky for the casual tealeaf. the principle thing to remember is that securing a bike is a war of attrition. the local scallys have all the time in the world, and thats their world, not yours. their world starts at dusk and allows them to sleep in the day whilst you are working. remember that above all else, darkness is their friend, so once youve locked it up, protect it by lighting up anything that moves near it. cctv is only any good to identify them if you fail and they get it. and if they know you have cctv, they will mask up anyhow.