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SteveC#222

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New years fireworks
« on: January 01, 2012, 01:11:09 PM »
I really enjoyed the firework display in London this year, best I've seen for a long time....the crowd seemed to enjoy it too

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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2012, 05:29:11 PM »
Aye Steve,

Yous a paid up Nationalist?  8) ;) :-X

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SteveC#222

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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 07:31:54 PM »
No Bill, just my little joke having seen last nights celebrations on the TV this morning. ;)

Given everything thats been going on in the world in the last year it's easy to forget how fortunate we are to live in a democracy where - in theory at least - if we don't like our leaders we can get rid of them with nothing more dangerous than a pencil on a piece of string. It's just that the current incumbents ( and for that matter the opposition) are such a Bl*^^y frustrating bunch!

That said, I would recommend anyone to watch V for Vendetta and read 1984 to realise  how easy it would be to lose it all. I read 1984 last year for the first time since I was at school and a lot of it is frighteningly familiar...Remember Mr Cameron et al, it's a warning not something to aspire to!

I find the current lot's plans to abolish the House of Lords particularly worrying as while it is archaic and maybe a little out of touch it is a useful 'safety valve' against some of the more 'interesting'  ideas that come from the lower house at times.

Ok, off the soapbox as this is turning into a rant!

Happy New Year to all! ;D
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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2012, 09:18:40 PM »
Good points well made imho

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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2012, 09:19:37 PM »
Hear Hear (or is it Here here?) Steve



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themoudie

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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2012, 10:07:48 AM »
Aye Steve,

I agree with what you have written. In the early '70's used to sit in the public gallery now and again for lunchtime entertainment! The Lords was good, with apparently moribund bodies suddenly erupting into a fluent argument and then subsiding to the moribund state. Bit like 'Old Faithfull' in Yellowstone! 'Hired men' 'advising' incontinent/incompetent 5 year prospects is all a bit short fuse for me, with a tendency toward the 'Fred Dibnah', at times.  ;)

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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2012, 12:10:58 PM »
If anyone fancies a very good, thought provoking read can I highly recommend 'Letters to my Grandchildren' by Tony Benn (MP). I got it for Christmas last year and it's excellent.
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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2012, 12:24:56 PM »
I've paid to see Tony Benn speak. Whatever your political bent he is an intelligent and amusing chap. His argument that his socialism is inspired by the bible is a tour de force in seizing the moral high ground.

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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2012, 01:14:08 PM »
One Pot, that may be but he was an unmitigated disaster in power.

Steve, why the future conditional tense ie what might happen. It may not have happened past tense but it seems to some to be happening.

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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2012, 02:23:19 PM »
I have to agree with you on both points Steffan.  Something seems to happen to even the best politicians  when they actually get in power but they often mature when out of office. In the book even Tony Benn admits that he made many mistakes. I've always admired the man to some extent because love him or loath him he always talked a lot of sense even if it that did clash with the political and social thinking at the time.

1984 becoming a reality? yes it is to  an ever increasing extent. When you read the book you can find shades of Big Brother everywhere, surveillance cameras, greater restriction on freedoms, constant Government intervention and 'advice' on our chosen lifestyles, Identity cards and of course Mr Cameron's 'Big Soc'.  The problem is that a large section of the electorate is completely turned off by any mention of politics, not really suprising as most of the Parties are pretty much the same and the MP's largely faceless yes men 'whipped' into towing the party line  regardless of their constituents best interests. There are few political characters any more to grab peoples interest. Many people feel they have no influence and that their vote is meaningless so they don't bother to exercise their right to vote. I read somewhere that the current Government 'won' with only 23% of the vote of those actually eligible to vote. Apathy it seems was the real winner.  All you need to add to this is a massive social upheaval, say a recession, then you just need to plant the 'fear factor' and everything is in place.

For all of that, we still enjoy more freedoms than many parts of the world, there are a lot of places where I couldn't have written this without the fear of a knock on the door.  And sadly many will die in the Middle East today for a chance of what freedom we have.

There you've got me back on the soapbox again!
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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2012, 09:46:32 AM »
There is a newly revived program on telly at the moment that I arn't seen yet. Digital telly has opened new old doors it 'as

it's called "Yes Minister" and it don't look arf good. "n 'es just been made Prime Minister 'n all.

You guys have ALL the good politicians there!

SteveC#222

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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2012, 10:16:37 AM »
There is a newly revived program on telly at the moment that I arn't seen yet. Digital telly has opened new old doors it 'as

it's called "Yes Minister" and it don't look arf good. "n 'es just been made Prime Minister 'n all.

You guys have ALL the good politicians there!

Worryingly, several Ex MP's have said that 'Yes Minister' is a pretty close to how it actually works! no kidding!
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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2012, 12:05:25 PM »
Senior figures in Thatcher's government did make discrete enquiries about whether there was any 'inside' assistance with the scriptwriting of 'Yes Minister'.

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Re: New years fireworks
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2012, 08:06:50 PM »
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