Author Topic: Start the week topic  (Read 3091 times)

guest7

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2006, 12:04:28 AM »
I wear bike clothing that has been accumulated on an "as required" basis not as a fashion statement. If they say anything about me it's probably "he's colour blind but he has an eye for a bargain".

LOL.

Mind you, isn't being so defiantly anti fashion and marketing an expression of your self-image?

OK, calm down, I'll get my coat :-)
GC

Andy M

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2006, 07:55:41 AM »
I wear bike clothing that has been accumulated on an "as required" basis not as a fashion statement. If they say anything about me it's probably "he's colour blind but he has an eye for a bargain".

LOL.

Mind you, isn't being so defiantly anti fashion and marketing an expression of your self-image?

OK, calm down, I'll get my coat :-)
GC

What, like buying ready scuffed knee sliders or "weathered" jackets from the local cruiser shop? There won't be many of those at a TC rally unless you count stuff off E-bay!

Actually, I think I'm going to go anti-anti-fashion, buy a new lime green tupperware/ride with my **** in the air type thing with lots of X's, Y's and Z's in the name, matching one peice leather suit 2-sizes too small and a carbon fibre cod piece. The budget could be a problem, just what can you get for £4.93? Ok then, 12 foot forks on the MZ and a few metal studs for my 11 year old Gericke jacket it is then. I'll try calling it an ultra rare sh*t head at the local Harley boutique and see how it goes from there ;-)

Andy

Richard 003

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2006, 04:49:10 PM »
Actually, I think I'm going to go anti-anti-fashion, buy a new lime green tupperware/ride with my **** in the air type thing with lots of X's, Y's and Z's in the name, matching one peice leather suit 2-sizes too small and a carbon fibre cod piece. The budget could be a problem, just what can you get for £4.93? Ok then, 12 foot forks on the MZ and a few metal studs for my 11 year old Gericke jacket it is then. I'll try calling it an ultra rare sh*t head at the local Harley boutique and see how it goes from there ;-)

Andy

I've tried Google. "Your search - "mz rat chop" - did not match any documents." Could ne a niche there. Am I the only person who thinks a matt black MZ two-stroke chop would be an excellent thing? It probably smacks too much of style over function for this debate ... ;-) 

steffan

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2006, 05:34:35 PM »
It probably smacks too much of style over function for this debate ... ;-) 

Indeed!! bordering on sacreligious. Take a beautiful handling and perfectly functional little bike and convert it into a poor handling abomination. Mind you I do like a bit of mat black - HTP preferred

Steffan

guest27

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2006, 08:46:21 PM »
Many many many years ago, Biggles of the Barrel Bikers Buckingham fame had a chopped Jawa 2 stroke complete with lawnmower handles as the handle bars - does that count?

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squirrelciv

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2006, 07:32:51 AM »
Not wanting to get too deep, but I can consede that what we do/look like/buy etc etc does say a lot about our self identity allbeit unintentionally. The problem comes when people actively seek out to portray an image that isn't theirs naturally.
So great to wear a worn leather jacket, jeans and ex army boot because they fit your needs, wrong if you think it'll make you look tough down the pub.
Heyho, off to get studs glued to my forehead and 'love/hate' tatooed across my knuckles :-)
Live long, live well, live happy

Andy M

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2006, 09:30:20 AM »
It probably smacks too much of style over function for this debate ... ;-) 

Indeed!! bordering on sacreligious. Take a beautiful handling and perfectly functional little bike and convert it into a poor handling abomination. Mind you I do like a bit of mat black - HTP preferred

Steffan

Oh yes! Actually Hammerite do some decent colours too and I love that dayglo plasticote stuff!

A guy here abouts used to have a chopped Ural. Long forks, tiny bullet shaped tank painted with the old USSR flag etc. When you think about it, that's much more of a real chopper than anything you can buy at a dealers. It must have been a pig to ride, but for doing the long straight road in a group thing it seemed to work. It was his bike, made by him, so a real chopper even if it didn't have a 1200cc V-twin. Back to the image cos you think that way rather than buying what you think is cool thing I guess.

Andy

Steve Lake

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2006, 10:13:02 AM »
SWMBO says my affection for bikes is just my second (or 3rd) childhood (quite ignoring the fact that i have had a bike of some sort since 1962 , 3 years before she met me!), but she says the same thing about my love of good rock music, and I've been into that for as long as I can remember.
But that is HER perception of old bu55ers on bikes who like rock music

oh, and if you like progressive/rock try Juliette and the Licks, great name great music (good looking woman too :-))

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guest27

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2006, 12:01:58 PM »
Self perception - self image.  We all have one, it is what guides what we do and how we do it.  Built of many things some cultural, some familial and I am sure some are genetic too.  Then as we do noe thing it opens up the chances of doing something else.  I am not sure if people who 'try' to be what they are not - in our view, actually are.  We may find a lad who would never ride a bike, but who dresses like a 'biker' to be a posing wally, but is that who he is (the ertzatz biker) or is he trying out his image, testing what he is and what he is not.  I guess most of us have had a dalliance in the past with various things, I was once a committed and quite fundamental Christian, now I believe that all that is above us is clouds and all that happens when we die is we become compost - was the fundamentalist Christian not me? I have said in the past that I have not had a bike on the road for any extended period for years, does that make me a wannabe, or just not getting my act together.  I think the problem (ahem) that GC has is actually thinking about these things.  I guess having his bits dissconnected has allowed more blood to his brain and these thoughts keep popping out.  And long may it continue.

I guess you may need to address what your self image or self perception are before you can start to ask whether your actions are aligned with what you think you believe (always remembering that our actions are driven by our beliefs and values and thus what we do is always right from 'their' viewpoint).

Still have no working bike.  Still have no office floor.  Still have no six-pack.

R

guest18

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2006, 02:14:31 PM »
Rog, given your last musings you need to read a treatise on Buhdism (sp)... assuming you haven't already. Post Christmas lunch now so I'm not going to get into it right now ;) ask me when I'm less... erm.... chemically emotional! :o

Richard 003

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2006, 08:28:31 PM »
Many many many years ago, Biggles of the Barrel Bikers Buckingham fame had a chopped Jawa 2 stroke complete with lawnmower handles as the handle bars - does that count?

R

Definitely ;-)

Richard Marshall

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2006, 07:42:34 PM »
http://www.ratbike.org/docs/554.php

I reckon its much too nice to be a ratbike.  I rather like it, maybe the ETZ in the shed will be a bit like it.  I'm too disinterested in appearance to do a decent paintjob though.

Richard Marshall

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2006, 07:43:51 PM »
And at last, a sensible use for a DR750.

Sorry.

http://ratbike.org/docs/599.php

Quite a few thumpers listed mind, some quite good looking.

guest7

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2006, 08:00:34 PM »
Now that is lovely:


As someone said, far too nice to be called a ratbike
GC

guest18

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Re: Start the week topic
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2006, 09:21:58 PM »
Oh dear, definitions again(!) To me most of the bikes shown in the linked piccies are far too intentional to be classed as a ratbike.
Spraying everything with matt paint and fitting silly seats/whatever is a custom bike, some would even say a lazy custom job! However whether or not you like the style it's a deliberate choice to make the bike look a certain way.
For me at least, a ratbike is something that has evolved because of use and necessity, not something created "in the style of.."

If you want to see a *real* rat then go look at some older despatch bikes :-o lol
(or indeed some members bikes.....!)