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guest7

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2010, 09:55:42 PM »
Er... don't the gears run in oil then? I have a vague notion of how strokers work but I assumed there would be some gearbox oil to change.

What would I know, I've haven't owned a stroker since 1983 and that was a Suzuki FS50

GC

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2010, 10:03:03 PM »
Certainly the ones I've played with had gearbox oil, which iirc was actually "engine" oil used to lubricate the gears, I suspect you have been attacked by "pedants we are"  ;) ;D

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2010, 10:17:44 PM »
The bike is now at my brother's house being played with and kicked straight. He took the baffles out and cleaned them, but I forgot to include the keys with the bike so he wasn't able to start it today. He's got the keys now so I expect an update tomorrow am.

He also promised to check the chain and sprockets, but as the whole lot is enclosed he wasn't looking forward to that.

We were pretty 'impressed' by the fact that the carb is a push-fit in the inlet manifold  :D  I guess it must work ok otherwise they wouldn't have done it that way... a logic I cannot extend to the braking system  ;)

I'll say one thing about the bike, there's not many bikes you can load into and out of a van single-handed.

GC

Richard

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2010, 10:57:55 PM »

Alright then smartypants !

Why does my BMW have engine oil and gearbox oil then.  Not the same thing at all.

Folk try all sorts in teh MZ gearbox - 80w, 20/50, ATF.  I had to use two stroke oil once when I realised it had dumpted it all and that was all I had.  Quite a smooth change.

Richard
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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2010, 11:26:43 PM »

Alright then smartypants !

Why does my BMW have engine oil and gearbox oil then.  Not the same thing at all.....


Because otherwise their gearboxes would fail even more often ;-)

In some applications, you are quite right, the shear resistance and viscosity of the oils used for engines and gearboxes differ markedly, and yet on others it's remarkable what will work... and of course what's written on the back of the oil can is generally farm more important than the flashy logos and advertising splattered over the front ;)
If bikes really need "gearbox" oil for their transmissions why don't 90% of unit construction bikes eat their gearboxes??  ;) :P ;D

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2010, 11:30:17 PM »
ECHO margarine!

The difference between it and a lump on the head is butter!  ::)

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2010, 11:35:16 PM »
Hang on, that anorak could be useful...

Ha ! I see pick my Brains !
How much GEAR Oil ?
Tyre Pressures with Sidecar !
.......How much is it worth ?....all this info..?

Oh ! and I have a Brand New Hagon Shock.....Triple Heavy Duty for a Velorex 562.

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guest7

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2010, 12:41:55 AM »
See you've actually asked more questions than I had thought of... you're making a rod for your own back you are  ;)  

We all know what it's worth... absolutely shag all  :D :D :D

If the shock is for sale how much do you want for it? (it could double the value of the bike!)

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2010, 09:48:32 AM »


If the shock is for sale how much do you want for it? (it could double the value of the bike!)

GC

That it would !!

Get in touch and lets talk  ;D

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2010, 10:22:52 AM »
I like a dash of premix especially on running in..but you have to have it running before you worry about pump vs premix..

Steffan

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2010, 10:39:00 AM »
In my MZs I like silkolene light gear oil for the g e a r b o x. The e n g i n e uses the pump with a dash of premix also Silkolene (semi-synth) If you plan to keep it it would serve  to replace the points ignition and generator with one from here, no constant adjustment or cleaning but lots and lots of revs - beautfiul !!

Steffan




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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2010, 10:51:45 AM »
In my MZs I like silkolene light gear oil for the g e a r b o x. The e n g i n e uses the pump with a dash of premix also Silkolene (semi-synth) If you plan to keep it it would serve  to replace the points ignition and generator with one from here, no constant adjustment or cleaning but lots and lots of revs - beautfiul !!

Steffan


Points are OK !
But you do tend to get a better spark with electronic.

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2010, 06:53:27 PM »
Why don't you just change the flint?

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2010, 12:01:40 PM »
Hang on, that anorak could be useful...

Bike ran yesterday after a points clean and carb clean out. However, I need to change the engine oil and I have no info on what grade and how much, etc. Also, as some numpty has binned the airbox and fitted a K&N filter, i need to know what the standard jet sizes are so I can tell if it's been jetted to suit.

My thoughts are to find a new airbox and put it all back to standard, but in the meantime if it will run with the filter then that will be fine.

GC

Have Jet sizes and oil info !
Let me know which model.

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robG

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Re: Wrong stroke, too many cylinders, but...
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2010, 10:48:19 PM »
Mind you don't get oil on your anorak !

Rob