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JOOLZ

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XBR500 lock tabs
« on: May 27, 2025, 01:33:15 PM »
I was wondering if any UK companies have the rear sprocket nut lock tabs for the Honda XBR500 in stock, I had a look on ebay as well and couldnt see any


xbally

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2025, 04:16:03 PM »
David Silver...?
HONDA CB250RSA ROYAL ENFIELD GUERRILLA 452

JOOLZ

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2025, 05:25:42 PM »
David Silver...?
I couldnt see any

themoudie

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2025, 12:06:20 AM »
Aye Joolz,

It would appear that instead of using lock tabs for the rear sprocket nuts, Honda are now supplying NUT, U, FLANGE. 10MM, #90304GBL003, Replaces #90304GE8003

These are available from David Silver and I have posted the link to their parts list below:

Honda_XBR500_rear_sprocket_lock_nuts_#90304GBL003

At £3-77 each, including VAT, they appear to be about the cheapest place for the OME nuts. Fowlers have them in stock as well at £3-86 each, including VAT.

I have looked on Simply Bearings, but they do not appear to stock this type of lock nut.

Whilst the OME are not the same as Aerotight nuts, the design appears to use the same locking principal, but there appears to be little advantage in price. if you used Aerotights, rather than the OME #90304GBL003 nuts, the Aerotights do not have the bottom flange to spread the pressure on the sprocket more widely around the stud.

On no account would I fit nyloc nuts as an alternative, as they will slacken, with the vibration. Alternatives would be to use good quality M10 nuts, drilled across 2 flats and after cleaning and applying a nut lock liquid, torque to the Honda specification and then lock wire all six nuts together. Another method would be to cut paired flat tab washers, as were fitted to Ducati singles and I suspect many other machines.

Personally, I still use the nut lock and paired tab washer on the Ducati and nut lock and Aerotight nuts on the other bikes. Making sure to torque to the OME recommendation, or that given by any good engineering/fastener supplier guide.

I hope this gets you sorted and out and about Joolz, there is nothing more frustrating than being imobile for the want of a couple, or 6, in this case nuts!

Good health, Bill
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Moto63

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2025, 07:34:28 AM »
As always, brilliant and concise advice Bill. Some of which I personally will take, store in my head for any future builds I do.
Yes.. best of luck Joolz. Keep us posted 👍
Cheers, Michael

JOOLZ

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2025, 10:15:07 AM »
Thanks Bill for the information, very handy to know, I will order some new nuts for the sprocket

themoudie

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2025, 02:12:45 PM »
Aye Joolz, my pleasure.

Good health, Bill

richardeblack

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2025, 11:25:53 AM »
This is very interesting as none of my XBRs have had tab washers.  Just flange nuts which I assume are aerotight locking ones.  I have always just reused them after a good clean and loctite.  I've never had one come loose in some 200,000 plus miles but am now a little bothered.
Should I replace the nuts each time I fit a sprocket?
There are plenty of M10 flange nuts and M10 aerotight nuts about but, as you say Bill, flanged aerotight ones are not readily available. Should they be high tensile nuts? Would aerotight nuts with washers be ok?
Thanks Bill for all the information and your suggestions.
Richard.

themoudie

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2025, 09:42:44 PM »
Aye Richard,

Dinnae fret!  ;)

Some might advise new nuts every time that the sprocket is renewed, but that is a bit of overkill in my somewhat curmudgeonly thought process. The nuts just retain the sprocket on the studs, it is the studs that require the strength. So, high tensile nuts? No harm, but not really necessary. After about 50 tightening cycles, the threads and the gap between the nut locking rings, will increase, reducing the locking effect. Have a look at the two graphs attached, one for M6 and another for M8 aerotight nuts and see why, personally, I am relaxed about renewing intervals for aerotight nuts. If you take the point at which the 50% proof load line is crossed as the locking rings loose their efficacy, you'll see why. I do not have access to a similar graph for M10 aerotight nuts.

Aerotight nuts, with 1mm thick washers, rather than the "wafers", often offered, would be the route I would go down. Making sure that the studs, aerotight nuts and washers are clean and grease free, before applying a drop, no need to smother the stud, of your favourite nut locking fluid. Ensure that when nipped-up, the stud protrudes by at least a thread from the end of the nut locking ring and then torque to the manufacturers OME specification, or that given by any good engineering/fastener supplier guide. The washer increases the nut contact area, spreading the side thrust, which if your sprockets are correctly aligned, should be non-existent!

I suppose I should add, all at your own risk!  ::)

Good health, Bill

Steve H

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2025, 03:31:16 PM »
A lot of the Lambretta guys use these https://www.nord-lock.com/nord-lock/products/washers to keep their wheels on

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Re: XBR500 lock tabs
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2025, 08:08:08 AM »
Thank you Bill for your advice. I will check the nuts next time I do a sprocket and probably go down the aerotight nuts and thick washers route. I  guess the loctite should only go on some of the thread or it might act as a lubricant on torquing down? Just a thought as I've been reading discussions on greasing wheel nuts and bolts on cars which seems to suggest lubricant can lead to over torque with damage to the thread.
The washers look interesting Steve but are very expensive. I might have a look and see if they are available cheaper.