Author Topic: Open faced skid lids...  (Read 3562 times)

hondamichael

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Re: Open faced skid lids...
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2007, 11:26:08 PM »
to make my point
dont save money when buying a helmet , because your head its the only bodypart they cant replace
and open face lids may protect your brain from splashing on the road , but i like to eat the natural way
instead of getting my food in pre digested liquid form , so no open face lids for me
ok the J1 from schuberth  could be a very good idea

beeman

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Re: Open faced skid lids...
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2007, 06:49:24 PM »
After Norman Francis went over the handle bars racing a Norton at cadwell, using an open face helmet, which ended his life, after taking the front of his head off. I have never thought an open face helmet as a safety item but more of a fashion statement.

But I never was into fashion anyway, so what do I know.

beeman
We all get Heavier as we get Older because there is a lot more information in our heads

Andy M

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Re: Open faced skid lids...
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2007, 07:39:02 AM »
I have never thought an open face helmet as a safety item but more of a fashion statement.

But I never was into fashion anyway, so what do I know.

beeman

Definately not IMHO.

Picture the scene, Mr. "safe cos they race it" with his full spec Shoei, race leathers and and ultra loud exhaust pulls up at the side of me at a junction on the old A-64. I'm wearing an open face FM, 10 year old Gerieke jacket and jeans.  I think "what a ****er, wait your turn", just as the *** pulls out on the fire engine coming from our right (The pump has had 5 miles to wind it up to about 75 and isn't going to stop this week). He see's it at the last minute, gives the 4 cylinder Yam full throttle, makes it across the road (right where turning taffic would be) just before he gets DENNIS imprinted on his head and falls off onto the verge. The Brigade don't even see him (or saw him hit the central reservation grass at 35 mph, slide to a halt and forget to put his feet down as the bike low sides).

Having stopped to pick the moron up I actually find the slot in the helmet is so narrow he struggles to look in his own mirrors, he can't hear a two-tone at a hundred yards and he's got a splitting head ache from the lid pushing on his temples. He is of course late for work and thinks riding like a *** in all his gear is the way to sort it out (so not all kits fault). This muppet of course is unlikely to be a repeat customer for the helmet manufacturer (nothing his fault of course).

He might be better off on a race track and he would have been better off if Fireman Sam had actually mashed him into the road face first, but isn't prevention better than cure?

For me, number one priority with a lid is wide vision, comfort and quietness. Open types are great at lower speeds on the first two. Flip fronts work very well (i've a Schuberth and a Roof Boxer), but that old FM is the best city helmet I've every used. It has a visor so sliding on your face isn't as black and white as people make out. The worst helmet I ever tried was also a flip front (BMW), but full face jobs seem to vary massively. I had a cheap JEBS full face that was fine, I tried an FM that was like sitting in a tank vision wise. I really don't think you can say full face good, open face bad until you try each product.

Goggles by the way are the best way to deal with fog. I wish I could have seen the faces of all the sports bikes riders I've passed in bad weather, but their untreated, badly ventilated visors prevent it ;-))

Ride safe & try before you buy.

Andy

guest7

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Re: Open faced skid lids...
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2007, 11:33:53 AM »
I've got the nice Arai open face with flip up visor. I do a lot of town riding and for me the visibility (it's like you haven't got a lid on) is very important.

I'm sure the visor would manage to withstand a moderate speed scrape, but yes, a full face does make sense. I had a Jawa's engine block bounce off my chinpiece once in a two-bike accident. The worst of it was seeing the bike coming at me as I slid along the ground. My poor old Arai Giga full face was trashed.

GC

Richard 003

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Re: Open faced skid lids...
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2007, 09:13:45 AM »
I've got the nice Arai open face with flip up visor. I do a lot of town riding and for me the visibility (it's like you haven't got a lid on) is very important.

I'm sure the visor would manage to withstand a moderate speed scrape, but yes, a full face does make sense. I had a Jawa's engine block bounce off my chinpiece once in a two-bike accident. The worst of it was seeing the bike coming at me as I slid along the ground. My poor old Arai Giga full face was trashed.

GC

I hate crashing.

guest27

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Re: Open faced skid lids...
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2007, 10:28:24 AM »
Crashing often goes through phases - first there is the Weee I am having fun, folled secondly by the eeeek I am gonna fall off, then third is the thrill of the slide along the road and all the pretty sparks from the bike, then forth the pain of hitting the curb / other traffic and final the embarrasement of getting up in front of others, bowing and trying to pick the bike up.

On the whole I hate it - but it can be real fun off road.

I have never really been bothered by the lack of vision from a full face - never given me cause for concern - guess it is something for me to worry about when I get a bike back on the road.  Mind whilst I do not fancy an open face even for pootling about - I do so LOVE riding with out a helmet at all - such a different feeling - and the bike goes so much slower...  What is that - risk homeostasis...

R

Nathan French

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Re: Open faced skid lids...
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2007, 07:19:07 PM »
I hate crashing, there is always that moment when you go....

Eek - he's gonna knock me off.

but it helps to knock your head a little so you forget the days event, unless the git drives off.
like in my last accident.