Author Topic: Feeling proud of myself !  (Read 1269 times)

Andy M

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Feeling proud of myself !
« on: July 22, 2008, 04:28:02 PM »
Finally, the Bonneville lives!

Not sure if I posted the tale, but in the final sections of the National two weeks back the outfit re-developed it's missfire, had to be bumped at Leicester Forest East on the way home and finally died on the M-1. All this of course in torrential rain. Well I found the culprits:

1. Main Earth not connected to the engine except by a combination of corrosion and gravity.
2. A single rubbed through wire (starter button to relay) in the main loom.
3. A duff coil

The reason I'm chuffed? I found the lot  ;D

The main earth going makes a bike do really weird things. In this case, no lights except a constantly glowing indicator warning. Cross one indicator onto the other sides earth and you got flashing at half speed and dimly glowing oil and neutral lights  ??? Test negative battery terminal to frame and you get 7 volts, across the battery 12, from positive to frame 6  ??? ??? The single duff wire simply means you can't turn it over on the starter unless you jump it onto the relay from the battery (easy to find) and the duff coil you only find by substitution once everything else is fine.

Now the RAC guy claimed the problem was a duff starter motor (close but no cigar, the main earth is next down that line) and the Haynes book of lies claims the starter should have zero continuity through the windings (so how does that work without lots of sparks?).

The morale of the story?

Be logical and test what you can test and even a muppet like me will get there. Connecting a battery straight across the starter and getting movement proves Mr. Haynes wrong.

Don't believe stuff Haynes never probably did and the RAC guy was guessing at. Test like Haynes say and you'd only find out the new motor turns out to the same as the old one.

Chances are with electrical stuff, it is the wiring not the components. I found both wiring faults by simple end to end testing and then visual inspection. It may take more time than putting components on, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper. I suspect a Triumph dealer would have fitted a new loom  :(

Always know where the main earth is. A bikes frame can hold really different voltages  :o

Andy

Steffan

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Re: Feeling proud of myself !
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2008, 06:00:59 PM »
Well done that man!! Congrats Andy!!

Steffan

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Re: Feeling proud of myself !
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 07:46:15 PM »
Absolutely! Well done that man! Once the magic smoke escapes from electrickery it seldom works again. Obviously you found a way to put it back in you crafty devil!  ;)

bullet350

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Re: Feeling proud of myself !
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2008, 07:53:46 PM »
i lost faith in the 'experts' when my morris minor decided to stay in 1st gear (top speed of about 3mph at a billion rpm).

the 'patrolman' couldn't work out why neither 10, 11, or 12mm sockets fitted the bolts he was trying to undo.

d'oh.

bullet350

guest24

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Re: Feeling proud of myself !
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2008, 08:08:12 PM »
Well done! That moment when it all works again is soooo wonderful.

My SRX250 used to do funny things in the rain. Cured the problem by cutting the side off a two-stroke bottle and taping it just below the headstock between the two down tubes of the frame. This helped stop the water hitting the coil and other bits under the tank. A rubber mudguard extender finished the fix job. I always fit the rubber mudguard extenders at an exorbitant cost of £1.99 rather than the pucka 'fender extender'.