Rushed Dragon build

[Steve H]

Next time you're out shopping buy three jars of 'Happy Shopper' value coffee for the price of a decent instant* coffee . After her first taste of the muck ask her if she still thinks cheapest is best.

Which brings me to the point about threshold, we all have different value for money thresholds for different things. So using the coffee example, her threshold is higher than mine, I am quite happy with instant, she prefers ground coffee and wont drink instant. For bike stuff she is happy with cheap and cheerful and I can see the value in better quality stuff. Horses for courses and all that.

[mini-thumper]

.......decent instant* coffee.

GC

* an oxymoron, surely?

Would that be your objective opinion, on an extremely average, bittersweet drinking experience?

BB

[guest7]

Watch out, we'll be digging up mixed metaphors out of the woodwork before we know it...

GC

[guest18]

When it comes to bicycles, spend as much as you can. There is absolutely no comparison between a steel framed, friction shift clunker and an alloy framed bike with a decent groupset.

Having said that you can prioritise your spending. A good pair of lightweight wheels are a joy, whereas the benefits of titanium chainring bolts are less easy to detect.

How about a really good steel frame (rigid rear suspension front) with a decent groupset...? 
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?f%5FProductID=9103&f%5FFullProductVersion=1&f%5FSupersetQRY=C437&f%5FSortOrderID=1&f%5Fbct=c003155c018340

[Steve H]

Because steel is more resistant to fatigue (not sure thats the right way to describe it) its possible to build in more compliancy into the frame making a steel hardtail more comfortable.

[guest18]

Indeed, that's one of the reasons my toy is steel framed 
I was just having a gentle dig at the way GC appeared to be referring to my mountain bike as a "steel framed friction shift clunker"   

[guest7]

Crikey no, I was referring to the people who still ride old steel clunkers, not bikes made from decent cro-mo and the like. I ride a steel rigid made from Tange Prestige Ultra-lite.

GC

[guest18]