Author Topic: Touring advice- To Gloop or not to Gloop  (Read 3058 times)

bullet350

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Re: Touring advice- To Gloop or not to Gloop
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2007, 06:32:56 PM »

its a honda, which means no matter how you treat it it will carry on regardless.

i did 1900 miles in 5 days to the pyrenese and back, all on that most accomplished of tourers, the cb500. It looked a treat with panniers, tent, topbox, tank bag, and furry sheepskin seat!

one day i held it at 80mph/6200rpm for a day, 9am to 6pm. three stops in 550miles. it used absolutely no oil.

6200rpm for 550miles!

although i'm selling it, i've already lined up another honda. Forget a £13'000 BMW for a round the world trip, use an africa twin for £2'000, or a cb500 for £750.

tyres aside, take clutch & throttle cable and you'll be fine. the only thing that goes wrong on africa twins is the fuel pump (although being honda its rare) and it will still run with it disconnected.

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andy230

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Re: Touring advice- To Gloop or not to Gloop
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2007, 10:14:23 AM »
Hello!



one day i held it at 80mph/6200rpm for a day, 9am to 6pm. three stops in 550miles. it used absolutely no oil.

6200rpm for 550miles!



Impressive.  I am a total luddite.  I've done the trip before, 2 up with luggage on a '62 Norton 650.  it still made it, but of course gobbled a pint of oil every 500 miles!

I was origianlly going to go on the DR, till this mate offered me his Africa Twin



tyres aside, take clutch & throttle cable and you'll be fine. the only thing that goes wrong on africa twins is the fuel pump (although being honda its rare) and it will still run with it disconnected.


I will take some proprietary "tubed tyre sealant", I bought a couple of tubes today, trying to find some solderless nipples.  I hope the solid gurads protect the levers, cos its too late to get them now!  And the fuel pump is new about a thousand miles ago.

So maybe my dark cloud of pessimism in unjustified!!

Cheers all for advice

a

guest27

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Re: Touring advice- To Gloop or not to Gloop
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2007, 06:31:41 PM »
Can anyone imagine doing the same for a car made in the last 10 years - apart from the tyre weld maybe?  Maybe we are to pessimistic?

R

Andy M

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Re: Touring advice- To Gloop or not to Gloop
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2007, 09:57:38 AM »
Can anyone imagine doing the same for a car made in the last 10 years - apart from the tyre weld maybe?  Maybe we are to pessimistic?

R

Nope, bikes are just **** for the simple reason they are designed as leisure products.

In 15 years, 75,000 miles i've had a bike that stopped with a water pump failure, a bike that wouldn't run in the rain because the coil is mounted where the horn couldn't really live, snapped clutch cables and various blown gaskets and minor bits that fall off (OK I owned a Ural, but that never went for long enough to get in the stats!). I've spent a fortune on anti-corrosion gunk and 1000/4000/6000 mile oil changes. I've repainted whole engines that were simply desolving.

In the same 15 years and probably 300,000 miles of driving various company hacks i've nver had one that didn't make it home. Said company cars live outside, recieve no TLC in terms of anti-corrosion gunk and are barely serviced (company adds 10% to the service intervals!). When they hit 100,000 miles they still look pretty good and with new front seats and a full valet are auctioned off at about 25% of the new value.

I've worked with trucks, JCB's etc. that are treated even worse and it's not so hard to make them live. Open engine parts on tractors survive salt spray tests that would turn even a BMW or Honda into a stain on the test cell floor!

The bike manufacturers should IMHO be ashamed of themselves, but so long so many riders do 2000 dry miles a year and buy a new bike every 3 years they'll get away with it. The whole mainsteam culture seems actively set against reliability and longevity. Fit a stainless exhaust and the comic (MCN) will give it ten words. Add 2 kg and they devote pages to how "Lardy" it is.

Wow, that turned into a nice little rant! Think it's time for a cuppa ;-))

Andy

Steffan

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Re: Touring advice- To Gloop or not to Gloop
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2007, 12:30:33 PM »
Can't agree more.