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andy230

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oh me miserum!
« on: June 01, 2007, 10:18:34 AM »
Advice please on a tale of woe...

So I took my old fractured (ex-Yamaha something, not SRX, modified with different brackets, etc) oil cooler in to have a replacement MADE to my pattern.  I painfully shelled out over half a weeks wages for this, and its nice enough, if a little agricultural.

He was almost apologetic about the cost, as a much bigger one would have been no dearer.  The labour was high, materials low.  There's a lot of measuring to make sure it'll fit, then he cut the old brackets off and welded them onto the new cooler.  Anyway, a nice guy, and if you need a cooler or radiator, I'd recommend.

Home last night, and sized it up.  Lovely.  But!  The original (which the worshop didn't send back to the office, but I'm the process of hopefully tracing) had (Yamaha) fittings, which screw into the bottom of the cooler, and allow my solid oil line, with (non-moving) olive and captive male nut to screw into.  ie.  They are threded on the outside (which screws into the cooler) then there is a hex, and finally a "stub", threaded internally to accept the olive, 10mm pipe and male nut.  Without these Yam fittings, the olive -which is "stuck" onto the oil pipe- has nothing to press against and will piss oil.

Surprise surprise, last night it dawned on me that these male-hex-female fittings were not there...

I went back to the shop.  he understood the problem, kept the cooler, and will phone me back today.  Ideally, I'd like him to give me back my Yam fittings.

So, as I know nothing about this!:

1) can olives be removed from a solid pipe.  If so how?
2) Can olives which are now fixed onto the pipe be re-used?
3) I also need to trim the oil lines, as internally the new cooler is a little different.  Is it unwise to cut the pipe RIGHT AT the olive, or is there a chance the olive will be pulled off the end of the pipe?  Must I trim it with a little extra length to allow for the olive to compress and/ or move??

Sorry, this is a bit abstract.  If anyone doesn't understand, I'll try to draw it and Email you/ post it.

Alternatively, I can try to find replacement yamaha fittings.  I think I have an SRX oil tank, which may have the same fittings... I have an SRX 1JK cooler, but that uses a different system.  Will speak to all the folk I know with early 90s Yamahas!!!

++++STOP PRESS++++

My phone just rang.  It was the radiator man.  The guy who made it up has just realised that the fittings are for olives...  He looked for the old Yam parts and the penny dropped.  He put new fittings on unaware that it needed an olive.

Quote  " I'll get back to you in a couple of days.  There may be a charge for this Andy..."

Surprise fucking surprise!

My 3 questions still need an answer.  Anyone?

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themoudie

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Re: oh me miserum!
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2007, 08:21:05 PM »
Aye Andy,

If central heating/plumbing principals apply, answers are:

1. Usually with a hacksaw!
2. If they were slack and could be slid off then you have a chance with PTFE tape wound about. However, option 1. usually rules this out as I understand these are fixed (braised to the pipe by Yamaha).
3. I would advise trimming with a little extra length to allow for the compression of the olive and a 'touchy' more, u ken?

All sounds fraught and full of angst with gnashing teeth. As for costing you more! He should coco and pay the entry fees!

I hope you obtain satisfaction.

Regards, Bill

mav617

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Re: oh me miserum!
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2007, 10:20:42 PM »
Not sure if any of the fittings for the Yam SZR oil pipes would fit but I have a spare lump I could rip down and send you the bits if it would hlep...

andy230

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Re: oh me miserum!
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007, 10:42:11 AM »
Hello all!!

Thanks for advice and offers.

I did the california superbike school yesterday, with a fuel line for an oil cooler.  During the afternoon, the Rad Man foned me.

Its all good!  Custom stubs are being made to fit.  He said that t=apparently one of the threads on the Yam fitting was damaged, but I dont think so.  He's making new ones.  And no extra cost.  Very happy.

I will still have to trim the pipes, but (thanks bill) I can leave a bit for movement, compression, etc.  I will re-use the old olives.  Will let youse know what its like when I get it back.  All the best

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themoudie

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Re: oh me miserum!
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 07:55:52 PM »
Aye Andy,

Check and measure twice afore cutting!!!!!!!

Go canny, Bill