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Club House => Chatter => Topic started by: themoudie on February 14, 2019, 11:53:44 PM
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So who is going to take one of these on, from this forum?
The_Charging_Bullet_link (https://thevintagent.com/2019/02/14/the-charging-bullet/)
My regards, Bill
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Well that DEFO WON'T be me then 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I rather like that.....
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Could have made some attempt at styling though!
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Form follows function......
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Personally Ian... I don't think anything will be following that monstrosity... ya mates wouldn't want to be seen with ya 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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He started a series of articles in the VMCC journal but disappeared after just one article. I see why he has done it and good luck to him and who knows maybe it will catch on as a way of using up scrap Enfields. Not for me though.
I bet he still gets asked if it's a 'real' Enfield!
Ian
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Form follows function......
.....unless it's Italian. 😁
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This raises several interesting (maybe even important) points.
Yes, it works, and, as a concept/prototype it is well engineered.
Yes, he's right, one day we'll all be on/in electric vehicles for daily commutes/shopping trips etc
the problems arise when you want to take the family away on holiday (probably not to europe, but that's a different forum :) )
in your SUV with a caravan on the back (or any similar scenario), there are no electric vehicles available now, or coming down the track that can meet those requirements.
now, if by 2030 the only vehicles we can buy will be electric powered.... A) we won't have enough capacity in the national grid to charge the bloody things up (as it is, we may well be struggling to meet current (ha ha) demands by 2025 ).... and B) unless battery technology moves forward and therefor range is extended and charge times reduced i can see huge problems with lack of charging points, for instance ..... say mr tesco provides 20 charging points at his store..... and 50% of his customers are in electric vehicles, and of those 50% say 5% want to charge up ..... and the charge takes 30 mins .... big problem!!
and of course... whilst we are all tugging our forelock to the government and dumping our ICE vehicles and buying whatever we are told to buy as a replacement......
the REAL polluters are carrying on as normal .... the LORRIES, the TRAINS, the BOATS, the PLANES the BUSES.
oh... and don't talk to me about all the blo ody cows f arting round here!!!
maybe this should be in the rant section :),
So, to answer you question Bill ..... yes, i'd give it a go .... but i'd bung it all into a spare srx rolling chassis i have, and maybe pretty it up a bit... get the all up weight down to a minimum, super efficient tyres etc, might get a bit more range out of it.
have a good weekend everyone
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I agree with the electric principle, I've recently built a few e-bikes for myself, Pat and a few friends. I've used a 500w hub motor (not legal), which gives a top speed of around 23mph and with a 15ah battery + pedalling (but no pedalelec, just thumb control) gives around 40/50 mile range.
I saw an American TV programme recently and someone had built an LS650 with a used motor + battery from a Prius...looked interesting and went well.
The future's electric.
Dave.
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Maybe we should change this forum to the "Hoover" Club or some such then......................?If that's the future I'm out of here!
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🤣🤣🤣🤣.... the Hoover club. I like that one Martin.🤣🤣🤣, just brought up the vision of the late Freddie mercury in that video they did for I want to break free. ....fear not, I won't be going all leccy until I'm forced down that road. Cheers, Michael
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🤣🤣🤣🤣.... the Hoover club. I like that one Martin.🤣🤣🤣, just brought up the vision of the late Freddie mercury in that video they did for I want to break free. ....fear not, I won't be going all leccy until I'm forced down that road. Cheers, Michael
Yes I recall the video well Michael -it was a great send up. Roger Taylor looked the part especially and the bass player looked like an extra from Monty Python if i remember correctly!
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Maybe we should change this forum to the "Hoover" Club or some such then......................?If that's the future I'm out of here!
Suck it and see 😄😄
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The bad news: The future's electric 😕
The good news: We're living in the present 😄. (Or is it the past? 😏)
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In defence of electric bikes, the only plus point I am aware of is the max torque available from a standing start, which this article didn't seem to convey. I know with the Zero SR electric bike, the 116 ft-lb (157 Nm) has impressed reviewers and guaranteed traffic light GP success. Not for me though, ta.
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Don't get me wrong....I think the Internal Combustion Engine is a marvelous invention and even better placed between two wheels.
As regards e-bikes, it was something I wanted to experiment with and so
pleased with the results, but friends I go out cycling with are not so pleased.🤣🤣🤣.
Dave.
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I agree with the electric principle, I've recently built a few e-bikes for myself, Pat and a few friends. I've used a 500w hub motor (not legal), which gives a top speed of around 23mph and with a 15ah battery + pedalling (but no pedalelec, just thumb control) gives around 40/50 mile range.
Dave.
Hi Dave.
I've been considering something similar as the hills round here seem to be getting steeper..... but probably 360 watts would do me. Where did you source the components? Did you use a front or rear motor? Any thoughts on the best way to approach it?
My idea was to use a mountain type bike I already have and mount the batteries between the frame tubes somehow. Front wheel motor seems easiest especially if I want to swap it in and out.
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The first bike I built used a Schwinn American classic style frame and Springer forks, with a 500w rear hub motor with a 36v 20ah battery on the rack and the control unit inside the dummy fuel tank...purely for road use.
The second was a full suspension mountain bike with the same 500w motor, but with a 36v15.5ah battery on the downtube and the control unit in a bag on a seat post mount....for offroad use.
The parts were all sourced from Ebay, but being a technophobe, I wanted to keep it simple without an LCD panel and just a thumb control and the result is perfect. It certainly takes the effort out of hills and at around £400/500 for the parts, it's a bargain.
A friend decided to put a 48v1000w motor into aluminium forks and the torque destroyed them, so I rebuilt the bike with reinforced steel forks and all's well.
The hub motors are available in 250w/350w/500w/750w/1000w or more, front or rear wheel drive, but I find 500w is ideal + on some 500w kits the controller has a switch to deliver 250w (legal limit).
Hope it helps.
Dave.
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i was looking on alibaba last night and theree are several eleectric motorcycles for sale (as well as a rather lovely 250cc four stroke single for just under a grand, brand new) and interestingly a kit to build your own electric motorbiike including all the controls and a complete 17 inch motorbike back wheel with a 2kw electric motor in its hub, all running off a 72v battery pack, all included in the kit. alibaba is a fascinating place to browse, some stonking three wheeler trcucks and vans powered by 250cc ngines in there as well as such facinating stuff as a 1000cc vee twin engine or a 650cc twin cam single with fuel injection, all available for ridiculous prices.
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Thanks Dave.
The one time I used alibaba was a bit of a disaster. Fine if what you buy is OK but a nightmare if you have a problem with it.
If you think ebay is bad.......
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oh aye, im under no illusions about the distance and therefore accountability being practically zero, but there are such diverse things on there, brand new replica honda cub step thru's in 50 and 110 cc, starting at under 500 quid each. you can see why folks ar bringing a couple of dozen in and punting them out on ebay and making a few bob on the side. i suppose it depends on if you can hold your nerve. not sure i could trust myself though...
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I recently bought a Derbi Terra Adventure 125 with a blown engine, so after some searching decided on a Chinese copy of the Honda CRF 230. I looked at Alibaba and other sites and had the choice of Lifan or Zongshen. The biggest problem was import duty, then I found a French off-road dealer
could supply the Zongshen engine I wanted, delivered for £535....so I bought it.
Nice little engine.
Dave.
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Aye Dave,
Brexit will stop all that! :-X
My regards, Bill
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I... then hopefully we can (eventually) get back to producing half decent quality stuff ourselves 😉😉🤘..... ok, ok one can live in hope can't one???
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Yup....hope springs eternal :). unlike my hagon shocks which gave up springing atall... :D
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Oh dear, don't sound to good. Bet the actual coils are made you know where!!! Then simply assembled in the uk. That way they can legally write "built in Britain " on the box even tho all the actual parts are sourced from foreign shores.... get some industry back over here I say 😉🤘🤘... sorry rant over and my apologies for kindda taking the thread away from leccy bikes .... name withheld to protect the innocent 😁😁🤘