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Title: Soft compound tyres
Post by: tigcraft on June 25, 2014, 10:38:58 PM
What's a good soft compound tyre that won't break the bank?
I run a Skorpion sport 660 but the tyres that were on it were hard and skittish  (Pirelli diablos 150/110/17) as the back end used to slide about a bit regardless of  warming up. The problem I find is that being a large single the pulsing effect breaks traction far easier than a four pot does.
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: themoudie on June 26, 2014, 12:04:32 AM
Aye tigcraft,

You may care to give this site a "looksee":

moto-tyres (http://www.moto-tyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=1110&Cookie=froogle&cart_id=30153137.1110.20996&m_s=1&s_p=index)

Conti's are supposed to be good and reasonably priced. Others swear by Bridgestones and we use Avon Roadriders on both the SRX 600 and Bros 400. About to use German Heidenau on the Duke 450, after good reports, but don't appear to manufacture sizes you require. Race compound tyres for C90 racing in Ireland!  ;D

All the best.

My regards, Bill.
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: Moto63 on June 26, 2014, 07:21:37 AM
Morning chaps,
I,m running avons on my XBR  cafe racer, found them very good indeed in dry conditions, can be a tad slippery when the rain starts to come down. I,ll be giving the Bridgestones a try on my other XBR project bike (when finished) I run Bridgestones on my triumph 1050 speed triple and find them faultless in wet or dry conditions. Hope this info helps you out in some way.  Ps. Thanks for posting the tyre site up "themoudie" might just give em a try next time I need a tyre   Regards Michael
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: tigcraft on June 26, 2014, 12:31:05 PM
Thanks themoudie as that link is a very easy to read bit of handy kit and thanks also moto63. Eric
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: andy230 on June 30, 2014, 07:15:12 PM
I like Bridgestone BT 92s on the skorp.

I don't like the price tho. But I am horrifically tight.

Bit of chat here -->

http://www.thumperclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=6732.msg44822;topicseen#msg44822
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: themoudie on June 30, 2014, 10:45:46 PM
Aye Andy,

Good to read you are still circulating on 'sticky doughnuts'. Trust family OK and the 'mechanic' is progressing!  ;)

I was impressed, ordered Wednesday afternoon, delivered Friday, midday. Tyres for the 'Duke' and 'Morini the Minx'.

The price quoted for your BT090 F 110/70 R17 TL 54H M/C is £74-50 FREE DELIVERY IN UK! For the rear BT090 R Pro 150/60 R17 TL 66H M/C £89-80.  :o

Of course you could go a stage further and try BT003F Racing Street 110/70 ZR17 TL (54W) M/C £95-00 and BT003R Racing Street 150/60 ZR17 TL (66W) M/C  £120-10  ;D

Round here its a tenner to fit tyres to a loose wheel, or free, if you buy the tyre from the fitter, including a new valve.

Beads on the old Duke tyres seized to the alloy rims. Tenner to remove both tyres, so that I can clean things up.

Bottom end is together and allsorts of other bits and pieces on the go. Re-valving the forks!  ::) I must be mad. :-X

Good health.

My regards, Bill.
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: andy230 on July 01, 2014, 07:45:10 AM
Hey bill,

BT 92s are here
http://www.bridgestone.com/products/motorcycle_tires/products/battlax/bt92.html

These are the 090s
http://www.bridgestone.com/products/motorcycle_tires/products/battlax/bt090.html

Bit pushed for time to examine the minutiae,  just fyi,

Cheers for now, duke will be lovely (again!), and I have now sold the plastic arab's sword! Allah ackbar!!

The guy who bought it is exporting it to aus!  Sensible chap!  I still have it for now, but deposit paid, so I am too scared to drive it incase I prang it.

Will be sad to see it go, but it will keep me in tyres for a bit!!

Cheers,
A
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: tigcraft on July 01, 2014, 12:34:42 PM
Looks like I'm as tight as you 230, when I took my diablos off they went onto another bike I have then I took these temp tyres (mitchelin pilot 2s) which were far too bloody big and found in a  skip still with tread on them (that's the mz enconomy in my Yorkshire tightness)  which actually rode ok concidering they were for nawt.
Anyway there was a generous side to me and I think I heard a whisper in my mind to treat myself to a brand new pair but soft compound hence the start of this thread. I went to my local bike shop to interview them over tyres and a deal was done for'new'  tyres. The new tyres are Diablo rosso 2s that have only been raced the once and are nearly my size!!  See told you I had a generous side to me!
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: Richard on July 01, 2014, 02:39:41 PM
On my Skorpion Sport I shall probably be going for BT45s next time round - used them on numerous bikes and other than a weird wear pattern on the front on my BMW (probably low tyre pressures I have since learned) then they have been very good indeed.

OK in the wet which here in Wales rather matters.
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: Propellor on July 01, 2014, 06:24:14 PM
On my Skorpion Sport I shall probably be going for BT45s next time round - used them on numerous bikes and other than a weird wear pattern on the front on my BMW (probably low tyre pressures I have since learned) then they have been very good indeed.

OK in the wet which here in Wales rather matters.

+1 for the BT45's. I run them on my R100. I was also told they need a higher pressure and tried them 3 or 4 psi higher but didn't like the feel, so went back to 32psi front and 36psi rear. I also experience wear on the front sidewalls earlier than expected and the rear don't last long either. But the performance on the road is worth it, to me.
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: themoudie on July 01, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
Aye Andy,

Oz import eh! That could be interesting, if its growing 'window boxes' along the rubber seals. They are really twitchy about importing 'invasive species and non-natives' and luxuriant bryophyte growth  :o

I like tigcraft's comment, but then Yorkshire tight is different from Glasgo' tight. Not sure about wider tyres, they always seem to make a bike roll like a crumster in a Force 10, y'ken? Slim tyres just seem to feel 'right' and overtyreing the SRX, the Skorp and the Duke just made them all roll and feel lardy plus sensitive to white lines and drainage corrugations.

Speaking of 'economy' have you tried suspension from this supplier? Link: bike-revival (http://www.bike-revival.co.uk/page1.html)

Have a set of Betors from them for the Duke and will see how they fair! :-\

Slainte, Bill.
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: andy230 on July 01, 2014, 11:09:18 PM
I also loved BT 45s on my srx, good rubber i think.

Also agreed about over-tyring these bikes. Best stick with standard sizes, but as good ( read: expensive! ) a compound as you wish.

Tigcraft, let us know what you think of the new boots?

Night all,

A

Ps, WILLIAM,!! How very fkn dare you? Not flora on my British plastic,  thank you very much!!   ;)
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: themoudie on July 01, 2014, 11:51:17 PM
Aye Andy,

My works van had a luxuriant growth and even harboured mice in the loom under the bonnet! Shorted out the windows and the engine management system in all sorts of wierd and wonderful ways. Took the local main dealers 4 weeks to find it and then replace the loom and various ECU's etc. ;¬)

I shan't mention Flora again, she was a nice girl!

Toodle pip, Bill.
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: guest24 on July 04, 2014, 07:12:28 PM
If this helps:
SRX400E runs BT45 tyres at 3psi over normal pressure. I've found them absolutely fine.
MT-03 runs Bridgestone BT021 tyres and they seem to last for a long time and are fine in the wet.

Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: SRXweb on July 13, 2014, 09:05:47 PM
Are BT 090 still available ? They had been change for the BR 003 RS (RS means Racing Street) used by Supermotard biker. Seem to be great but I didn't try them.

Did someone tried the Maxxis Promax ?
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: guest1717 on July 22, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
Hi

I am running BT003 Racing Street tyres on my Skorpion sport and I wouldn't recommend buying them. The front tyre fitment is 120 / 60 rather than 110 / 60 and I found that on slow speed corners ( like roundabouts ) they felt like you drop off the edge which doesn't inspire confidence. I dropped the pressure down on the front tyre but still it isn't the super planted front I would expect so I have put this down to tyre size, rolls a little. 

How old was the Pirelli tyre as I wouldn't expect it to be hard and skittish unless it had been sat for ages / was really old. Even the Maxxis that were on when I bought the bike didn't have a problem at the rear.

I am going to run these tyres until the rear has worn down and then I think I will swap both for Pirelli Diable Rosso 2 in the correct size :)

Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: guest1717 on July 22, 2014, 07:16:51 PM
Check out the link below from 2009 very good tyre review by a chap called Bill


http://www.mzriders.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3172&start=0
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: SRXweb on August 03, 2014, 07:33:16 PM
What about BT 003 RS on circuit ?
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: guest1717 on August 04, 2014, 09:55:40 PM
I havent tried so cant confirm or deny. Saying that they feel ok on b roads at pace but you would be pushing much harder on a track
Title: Re: Soft compound tyres
Post by: booxbr on August 05, 2014, 05:56:13 PM
Put Avon Roadriders 90/90-18 front 100/90 -18 rear  on my XBR for last years CRMC parade at cadwell ,been on ever since as i us the bike on the road no problems as yet apart from the front giving a few moments ,may be i am push it to hard .  :)