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Club House => Chatter => Topic started by: guest1188 on March 15, 2011, 09:15:09 AM
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I'm collecting my new bike next week - Yamaha SR250, 1983 model - from Loch Ness (well, a village nearby) and riding it home, 600 miles to the south coast. Never been such a long way on such a small bike before, and the bike hasn't been used for a good while. So do I stay off the motorways all the way? I've got my YHA card, so I can stop wherever... I thought I'd do 150 miles to Loch Lomond and see how that goes, but after that, routes avoiding the motorways seem pretty tortuous... Any ideas on a cunning route? And after it's had a long layoff, is there anything on the bike I should particularly check? Cheers, Martin
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It will certainly be a test for both bike and rider and I dont know if I would undertake it. I would certainly make sure you have breakdown cover in some form or other "just in case". Motorways are a no no I feel and as you dont seem to mind how long it takes I would enjoy the journey and take plenty of photos along the way. Im sorry I cant help you with planning your journey as I dont know the route. Im sure someone will come along and advise you on a suitable pleasant route. If the bike hasnt been used for a while Im sure you should check the condition of the tyres as a matter of priority. Keep some engine oil with you as you dont know if it uses it anyway. WD-40 should be used with care but is possibly a useful thing to carry.
Hope This Helps and have a safe and enjoyable journey!
Ian :)
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I had one for years.
totally bullet proof. Mine sat around for at least 5years before I wanted to use it. After a quick oil change and carby cleanout it started straight up. ooh yeah... new battery too
It eventually got a bit too rattly and developed a crack in the swing arm. sold it off to a kid who used it for a paddock bike.. filters Chain, sprockets and tires and the odd globe and sparkplug.
I rode it at just over 100kph a couple of times, but mainly restricted it to around 85kph cruising.
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I'm collecting my new bike next week - Yamaha SR250, 1983 model - from Loch Ness (well, a village nearby) and riding it home, 600 miles to the south coast. Never been such a long way on such a small bike before, and the bike hasn't been used for a good while. So do I stay off the motorways all the way? I've got my YHA card, so I can stop wherever... I thought I'd do 150 miles to Loch Lomond and see how that goes, but after that, routes avoiding the motorways seem pretty tortuous... Any ideas on a cunning route? And after it's had a long layoff, is there anything on the bike I should particularly check? Cheers, Martin
Never mind the YHA card get a recovery card and sabotage the bike up there and get a free lift home. ;D
My 350 single took me to the Elephant rally and back no problem just a little slower.
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just take it easy and you will be ok, the trip sounds great fun. theres a couch available here near blackpool if you are in the vicinity and need to bed down for the night.
i sold a 1975 honda 90 to a guy last year, he came up to here, near blackpool, on the bus, and set off home on the little 90 to ride home to southampton on it. all he had was a denim jacket a lid and some gloves and a waterproof suit. got a call from him that same night saying he made it ok with no bother! so an sr 250 should be a doddle.
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go for it, have an adventure and then tell us all about it.
GC
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What is this view that small bikes can't do distance !
You'll be fine. Enjoy.
Richard
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Fewer moving parts than a big Jap multi, less to go wrong.
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We rode Francis barnetts from lands End to John O Groats and had no problems on motorways at 45MPH . Most people were fine and the truckers we very good. I would get tucked in behind a truck at 50mph and stay there.
Ken
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600 miles that's only a weeks commuting. Keep calm and carry on.
Steffan
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600 miles that's only a weeks commuting. Keep calm and carry on.
Steffan
If you've got a job. :-[
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Brilliant replies...
Tyres - yes, I guess they may not be very grippy, not to mention cracks etc... I'll keep an eye on them. The bike has just had a new MOT, so it should be basically OK. I'll get some engine oil from the first available garage in case of leaks or high oil consumption, and I'm taking a torch and a tool roll... Yes, WD40 is a good idea, especially as it seems to be still snowing in Scotland... Not a thirsty bike, but not a large tank either - I have no idea of the maximum range, but I'll find that out one way or another.
As for the route, my main worry is breaking down on a motorway. I have breakdown cover, but it would be a real pain, and I wouldn't have any choice but to ring the green flag man. Yes, the battery might well be a problem. Daylight riding only, I thought.
Very generous of you to offer hospitality, John R! Thanks, but I hope I won't have to trouble you!
Yes, agree about it being a little bike with few moving parts, which is just what I want. The rider may also be a non-moving part by the end of it. Bullet-proof - good to hear that... Greatly cheering to read your responses - thanks to all!
Martin
PS And it can't be as bad as the clapped-out Bantam I had when I was 17.
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Aye Martin,
Change the oil if you can. inflate the tyres and put fresh fuel in the old girl, after draining off the old stuff from the tank and carb if you can.
Keep a canny eye on the weather. Make sure you have plenty of warm layers and a something waterproof all over. We had 2" of snow here today and the temperature hasn't gone above 5C since last week. Coming over the high bits of hill there has been up to 15cm of the stuff, but down the West Coast has been reasonably dry. (But not the 12C - 16C of the Sarf Coast! 8) )
Where abouts are you picking the beasty up from?
I'm working away a bit next week, but if you need assistance you can give us a try, outside Perth. However, this would entail the eastern route rather than the western coastal possibility.
Roads up here are a bit dire in places due to the frost and 'patching'! ??? ::) ???
Drop me a line on the PM facility on this site, if you want a bit more detail! ;)
Check the SYHA website for current details and up to date availability. They've gone soft in the past 5 years and now pander to 'groups' and 'parties' having sold many of the best hostels for developement in the flush property years afore 2008. LINK: SYHA (http://www.syha.org.uk/home.aspx)
Also have a search under this link:Hostel-Scotland (http://www.hostel-scotland.co.uk) and this one Independent_Hostel_Guide (http://www.independenthostelguide.com) or for somewhere in Glasgow or Edinburgh Euro-Hostels (http://www.euro-hostels.co.uk).
Smudge may also be along to contribute, he bides on the south side of the Central Belt.
All the best and enjoy it. You've no midges to hassle you! ;)
My regards, Bill.
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Bill, I'm really touched by your thoughtful comments. I'm picking the bike up from Dundreggan, north-west of Fort Augustus. I'll contact you via PM. Martin
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pm'd you.
Best road in Scotland? (choice of many) A959 (I think, Nairn South through Lecht ski area, thru Braemar, Spittal of Glenshee etc etc. Tiny road thru Lammermuirs to Longformacus, S of Embra. Anything in Galloway Forest, inc the two forest drive private roads...
pares? Clutch cable. Always.
Sounds great, don't go too far before a stop.
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Have done several mad-cap jaunts to collect far from perfect bikes and they were always an an adventure, and just like yours always seemed to be during the colder months never in the summer. Look upon it as real adventure riding, and with a recovery card and a few tools it will be fine.
If you need an emergency pit stop I'm in Derby just off the A6. I'll PM my details just in case!!!!!
Good Luck & Have Fun
Boyd
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I can't comment directly on the SR250, but I had Suzuki's equivalent, the GN 250, which I would guess to be fairly similar. Motorways are certainly possible, but a realistic continuous cruising speed would be 55-60mph ish - they will go faster but really don't like it for long periods. Petrol tank is small - on the Suzi you needed to be looking for fuel around 100-110 miles and reserve was pretty small. Keep an eye on the oil level too - at 'high' speeds to Suzi had a fairly healthy appetite for oil. Acceleration is pretty nippy up to 50 ish but much over that speed and overtakes need planning. Very comfy to ride over distances and handle really well so once you hit 60 you seldom need to slow down.
Bear in mind the above is for the GN but as I said I expect the SR would be much the same. It should be a nice little bike.
..Oh, if you can avoid night rides until you've checked out the headlight - the Suzi's was truly awful! dangerous...until I swapped it for a Honda CB350S one!
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Tin of clamp-on "get you home" nipples is always good.
Gaffa tape and cable ties too.
Shifting spanner, reversible screwdrive, swiss-army knike, length of wire. Fuses?
Plug.
These should all fit in your pocket. I was going to say a tube of instant gasket and a puncture kit, but if you need that, just call the recovery bloke, and get a kip on the way down the road! Check oil on collection, and buy it on the road if you need I reckon.
Good luck. I am certain it is emminantly do-able.
andy
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Don't forget the mole grips :)
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Hi, I am selling the bike to Martin. Some of your advice suggests to me that you all deal with cowboys. The little lady is in fine fettle for her age. The petrol was replaced only 5 years ago and the oil was replaced last week when we changed the oil in the chip pan because it was beginning to smell. The tyres are hardly run in as the bike has only done 1500miles from new back in 1983. With all the spares everyone is advicing if Martin weighs more than 4 stone he will have trouble getting over Rannock Moor. Andy230 the clamp on nipples are these to dull the pain of the numb bum?
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Mmmmm Nipple Clamps ;D
(Thought I'd beat Jethro for a change ;D )
Andy
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Mmmmm Nipple Clamps ;D
(Thought I'd beat Jethro for a change ;D )
Andy
What do they feel like?
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is he enjoying it?
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Hi, I am selling the bike to Martin. Some of your advice suggests to me that you all deal with cowboys. The little lady is in fine fettle for her age. The petrol was replaced only 5 years ago and the oil was replaced last week when we changed the oil in the chip pan because it was beginning to smell. The tyres are hardly run in as the bike has only done 1500miles from new back in 1983. With all the spares everyone is advicing if Martin weighs more than 4 stone he will have trouble getting over Rannock Moor. Andy230 the clamp on nipples are these to dull the pain of the numb bum?
;D Ahhh!!! Rendering stag fat for waterproofing the boots, in the chip pan! ::) My regards to the old stamping ground and the Wade road over from Guisachan. May take the air in fair Glenmoriston this summer. That's a lovely canter from here, out to Kyle and beyond via Dalwhinnie, Spean Bridge and either The Garry or Invermoriston.
My regards, Bill.
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Tin of clamp-on "get you home" nipples is always good.
Gaffa tape and cable ties too.
Oooh ! "get you home" nipples......Mmmmmm Gaffa tape and cable ties !
Man after my own heart.
Jethro
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Hi Martin
Always a place to kip down if you get stuck or need some where to fettle the bike.
I'm just south of sheffield if needed.
beeman
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I had an SR250 years back. I think they are rated at 17bhp - they are very slow in stock form but as long as you're not in a hurry you should be OK. Mine ended up Cafe Racer styled with a 34mm Amal and a very loud exhaust, it was pretty quick in that trim.
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Brilliant post from John! And many thanks to Beeman for his offer.
In case anyone's interested, here's my proposed tool kit: 1/4in sockets 8, 10 & 12mm with ratchet and short extension; 10, 12, & 14mm ring/open-end spanners; mole grips; small and medium standard screwdrivers; medium cross-head screwdriver; pliers/sidecutters, cable ties, gaffer tape, tyre pressure gauge, little pot of chain oil, spare clutch cable, WD40, and a book of prayers to the wee fairies of the glens.
Martin
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Tin of clamp-on "get you home" nipples is always good.
Gaffa tape and cable ties too.
Oooh ! "get you home" nipples......Mmmmmm Gaffa tape and cable ties !
Man after my own heart.
Jethro
Just lollipops now and you'll have the full kit.
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Hahahaha ;D Aahhhahahaha :D
I am enjoying this thread!
(guess where the thread is...)
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Hahahaha ;D Aahhhahahaha :D
I am enjoying this thread!
(guess where the thread is...)
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G-String.....Anal Floss !?
Jethro
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...the oil was replaced last week when we changed the oil in the chip pan because it was beginning to smell. The tyres are hardly run in as the bike has only done 1500miles from new back in 1983.
LOL
Very droll. :D :D :D :D
GC
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Just found this, I'm near Falkirk, if you need somewhere to kip/spares/tools etc drop me a pm.
If the weather is(/was?) anything like todays you'll enjoy a fantastic trip. Just don't be in a hurry ;)
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Martin should be on his way North. Tomorrow looks a little 'damp' in the West but warm by way of compensation, so little or no snow at his elevation. ;D ;D
Smooth journey Sarf.
Regards, Bill.
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No comms from the intrepid traveller, so I assume he has past southward towards Hadrians at a steady canter.
Glorious day up here for a spin, with a following NW breeze and throstles giving full throat to the testosterone coursing their veins. Marvellous! Just marvellous! ;D
Spring comith, but the daffies have no raised their heads this far North. Galloway, yes!
Toodle pip, Bill.
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Did a trip up to loch ness couple of years ago, depends how long you got we did 3 stops before we got to loch ness, but then I was riding with a big group of harleys...
Did Bristol to barrow in Furness, then through lake district, upto loch lomond, then onto spean bridge (i think, not far past Ben Nevis) was a nice ride, some nice roads, but alot of motorway. Depends where on the south coast you're going, there's the A38 from Birmingham down to Plymouth. Could do a bit of motorway then turn off onto a road for a bit.
As for bein small, (not the same sort of distance as you're going to do but...) I once rode and aprillia rx50 from Bristol to Paignton and back, was waiting for it to go bang! But had no troubles.
If you fancy doing the reverse route that we took to Scotland let me know and I'll see if I can dig out the list of directions.
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I picked up Martin at Inverness 8.30 tuesday morning (I had to be up at the back of 6am to get there) brought him home and my wife Elaine cooked the condemned man to a hearty meal after which at about 11 am we waved him off shouting "good luck chuck" . I have not seen sight nor sound since.
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And indeed I'm most grateful to John for picking me up at a quite uncivilized hour! (By the way, his excellent shed contains two more Yamaha thumpers, which must be feeling lonely now the little SR 250 has gone away.)
Day 1: Woke at around 6am on the Inverness sleeper and watched with interest as the snow line descended towards the railway... Snow-covered mountains surrounded the station at Aviemore, but at Inverness the weather was clear. As John has said, he met me at the station, and after an excellent breakfast at his lovely loch-side house I departed at about 11am. My immediate impression was how small the SR250 is - I felt very cramped. I've never ridden a cruiser style bike before, and to be honest it made me feel like a beginner, all wobbly at slow speeds. Pictures of that style of bike make it look as though the seating position is very comfortable, but I felt too low down and the big handlebars (not ape-hangers, but tending in that direction) seemed to push me backwards. However, after a while I got used to it, and found that I could move back on to the higher part of the seat, which straightened my legs but made gear-changing a bit tricky.
Off we went down the A82, a very fine road, though the harsh winter has caused a lot of frost damage and potholes. The bike hummed along very well at about 50-55mph, though popping and banging on the over-run. I stopped and had a look, but couldn't find anything much wrong - an air leak somewhere in the exhaust, I think. As the morning went on it got warmer, and our progress faster. The A82 becomes wider and straighter as one goes south, and it eventually takes you through the magnificent Great Glen and down towards the Clyde. Since the bike was going well and the weather was fine, I carried on along the (horrible) M8 and down the (equally horrible) M74 in heavy traffic. At 50 mph the engine was doing 5000 rpm and felt comfortable - much faster and the bike seemed to be straining. Oh - I forgot to mention the brakes - what brakes, one might ask. I had forgotten how feeble a single-sided front drum brake is, and I began to wonder if a switch to disc is possible. Emergency stop? Not a hope... Still, it doesn't half improve your driver awareness...
And so the day passed, and we found ourselves in Carlisle, having covered 250 miles without any significant difficulty. I found a B&B with a handy yard to keep the bike in, and celebrated with a solitary glass or two.
Day 2, and the bike was reluctant to start and sounded rough, so I set off down the A6 rather than risking the motorway. Again I couldn't find anything much wrong, so decided to go for broke and take the M6. Soon I experienced one of the highlights of the trip when we overtook an old chap in a battered red Micra - this was the only overtake that we achieved in the whole journey, if you discount pedestrians and bicycles. But the upside of this is that we were averaging between 90 and 100 miles to the gallon - hooray!
There is nothing to be said about navigating the heart of England by motorway, so I won't. But soon after Birmingham I decided to take a detour through the Cotswolds, where I used to live. At Stow-on-the-Wold is a very nice YHA hostel, right in the town centre. There's a yard to park the bike and any number of excellent places to eat and drink. So that's where we stopped, having covered another 250-odd miles at 90 miles to the gallon. I was utterly knackered, I may say, and was asleep by 9pm.
And finally, the third day, today. The old fellow in his black-and-yellow jacket on a bike too small for him must have been an amusing sight, I reckon, like a fat wasp buzzing along. We had a very fine time in the Cotswold sunshine until reaching Bath, where I discovered a serious leak from the fuel tap. Of course I'd just filled the bike up, so I had to buy two petrol cans to drain the tank before removing the tap. It's one of those horrible vacuum-controlled taps, and was on its last legs - however, a bit of bodgery got it working again, and it lasted all the way home to Gosport. 'I thought you said it was little bike,' Annie said. 'It looks quite big to me.' Not exactly welcoming, I thought.
I was chuffed. The fat wasp and the little bike had done 647 miles at 90.5 mpg and averaged close to 45 mph. It must have been a shock for the poor little bike after a long lay-off, but it had done rather well and I was pleased with it. OK, I need to fiddle with the handlebars and seat to improve the comfort, and maybe look at a disc brake (has there ever been an SR250 with a disc? Seems possible). But it's a grand little bike, and just the ticket for want I want to do! Thank you, John!
Nothing very serious went wrong, so unfortunately I had no excuse to contact any of the Thumper Club members who had so kindly offered help in emergency - thank you all very much, gentlemen! I hope to meet you one day.
Happy riding to all, Martin
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Nice one chap!!!
We told you there was nothing to worry about....that said I would have too.
Congratulations.
Steffan
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Well done Martin.
Nothing like a little adversity/adventure to restore your sanity! Does that now mean that the short jaunt up the Welsh Marches is a possibility for the TC get together in July? Maybe see you there or on the road somewhere.
Boyd
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Fab!! And a great write up, cheers for that.
the A82, a very fine road, though the harsh winter has caused a lot of frost damage and potholes.
Nope, its just like that... and thats the way it is.
647 miles at 90.5 mpg and averaged close to 45 mph.
Now that is impressive! Well done, and good luck with it,
andy
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Good to hear it went ok. Nice write up.
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Aye Martin,
Thank you for the wee write up, Kat and I enjoy reading these. Very pleased that all went well and sorry you didn't feel able to tackle the old A74, much better than the M74. The mpg sounds good as well. ;)
All the best, Bill.
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maybe look at a disc brake (has there ever been an SR250 with a disc? Seems possible).
(http://travelswithmymotorbike.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/yamaha-sr-250-special.jpg)
Looks like you can. The SR reminds me very much of my old Suzi GN250 almost identical size and performance ( even down to 50mph @ 5000 rpm). The GN was available with drum or disc at the front and the disc was pretty good. Might be worth trawling Ebay.
Just had a look on Ebay and it looks like the SR125 has a front disc. On the GN many of the 125 chassis parts also fitted the 250 so you may find you can fit the SR125 disc to the 250?
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Steve, that's a really good idea - thanks! I'll measure up my forks and have a look at the specs for the 125. Also I'll the brake lever/master cylinder assembly and the pipework, come to think of it. And a new front hub, or a complete wheel... Better start saving up.
Other things people have mentioned - I didn't know the A74 was a decent road, or I'd have taken it. Next time... And I'd love to come to a TC rally, so maybe see you in July!
There's something about this low-speed touring that could get quite addictive. With two spare gallons in my pizza box (it does look rather like a pizza delivery bike) I'd have a range of something like 400 miles... Great!
Martin
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Steve, that's a really good idea - thanks! I'll measure up my forks and have a look at the specs for the 125.
A mate of mine has an sr 125 if you need any of the measurements checking
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Well-done Martin - esp taking M8/M74...you mad!
You'll have to come up again, if only to try out some decent roads here, of which there are many.
Enjoyed the report, and indeed the thread. Feels like summer is on the way! (ie FUN riding, not just commuting...)
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i have just looked at the picture of the sr250 and the disc caliper and forks look very simular to the virago 535 so this may be another source of a fork/disc upgrade
virago forks are 36mm diameter and 80cm long
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Steve, that's a really good idea - thanks! I'll measure up my forks and have a look at the specs for the 125. Also I'll the brake lever/master cylinder assembly and the pipework, come to think of it. And a new front hub, or a complete wheel... Better start saving up.
Other things people have mentioned - I didn't know the A74 was a decent road, or I'd have taken it. Next time... And I'd love to come to a TC rally, so maybe see you in July!
There's something about this low-speed touring that could get quite addictive.
With two spare gallons in my pizza box (it does look rather like a pizza delivery bike) I'd have a range of something like 400 miles... Great!
Martin
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bunch of guys on the c90 forum all rode overland to spain on them last summer. the tour on the continent every year.
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If I was doing that trip again I wouldn't do all those motorway miles, but bearing in mind the recent weather, the aim was to get back as quick as possible. From several comments it's clear that I missed some nice roads, though it looks hard to get past Manchester and Birmingham without using the M6. I did wonder about going over to the east and down those nice old A roads through Lincolnshire etc., but it's a hell of detour. On reflection, that kind of trip needs an alternative kind of UK road map, which clearly shows the good biking roads. Or maybe there already is such a map?
As for slow touring, there's more time to look around and that's great, but your attention can wander and it can get kind of mesmerising after a few hours. Because of that, I stopped for fuel and a break about every 100 miles - wow, a whole gallon of petrol, what an expense! I also realised I was getting dehydrated, which may have contributed to my state of mind.
I've now got some ordinary handlebars to replace the cruiser bars, and sent the bike's seat off to Viking Motorcycle Seats to be levelled out. I don't see why those US-type seats are so popular - surely you need to be able to move around the seat on a long trip? Unless you possess an armour-plated backside, of course.
Cheers, Martin
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I've got an SR250 and find it fairly comfortable on longish trips. Compared to the GB, anyway. I've cut 3cm off each end of the bars and added a tooth to the front sprocket, both of which help noticeably. It sits on 60mph all day if necessary. My fuel tap failed, too, and I'm hunting for an old-style manual one: off, on, res. The engine is much more flexible than the GB's, making it more relaxing to ride in town or the hills.
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Wretched fuel tap - yes, a plain one would be nice. I've just fitted new tap seals (£20!) but the tap still doesn't work properly. I assumed that the lack of vacuum is supposed to shut off the fuel when the engine is stopped, regardless of the position of the tap, but that doesn't happen. And it still dribbles when turned to 'off'. I am baffled.
Also I wonder whether the vacuum feed to the tap from the inlet manifold is leaking and weakening the mixture. The bike is still popping and spitting occasionally, and the plug looks a bit too pale for my liking. I think a carb strip-down is called for, and a new vacuum pipe to the tap.
I used to have an XBR years ago, and wish I hadn't sold it. Yes, it wasn't that flexible, but great fun to ride, and quite economical too.
Martin
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Re Martin'c comment about nice Biking roads, the following was taken on our return from Glenshee to Edinburgh a couple of weeks ago:
(http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab340/thejapgrinder/Glenshee%20Weekend%20CX%20and%20Friends%20March%202011/HeilanCoosbitofsnow.jpg)
Dunning to Powmill road - twisty, narrow, and almost traffic-free. A touch of snow, and Heilan Coos too!
And meringues at the Powmill Milk Bar after!
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(http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab340/thejapgrinder/Glenshee%20Weekend%20CX%20and%20Friends%20March%202011/HeilanCoosbitofsnow.jpg)
And meringues at the Powmill Milk Bar after!
Got a free Milkbar in front of you ! ;)
Jethro
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Oops, you may be doing yerself an injury. The vacuum tap has no 'off' position. It has only Prime, On and Reserve. In the Prime position it's always on, regardless of whether the motor's going or not. If you clean the carb, use a butane lighter filler to pressure-wash all the tiny jets; butane dissolves varnish.
And the brakes aren't all that bad if the cable is WELL lubricated with engine oil (not WD40 or equivalent) and led so there are no sharp bends.
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Oooh! I didn't know that about butane. That's worth remembering, that is :)
Cheers,
Dave B
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Epic trip and a good write up.
I think the forks are 32mm, I had some Cerianis on mine from an Italian bike (Ducati maybe). I'd forgotten how terrible the front brake was.
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No, I didn't know about that cunning idea either - I mean using butane on the carb jets. Excellent notion! And thanks also for the info on how the tap works, the input on brakes and the dimensions of the forks. All very useful! It's nice here, innit? Cheers, Martin
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Steve, that's a really good idea - thanks! I'll measure up my forks and have a look at the specs for the 125. Also I'll the brake lever/master cylinder assembly and the pipework, come to think of it. And a new front hub, or a complete wheel... Better start saving up.
Other things people have mentioned - I didn't know the A74 was a decent road, or I'd have taken it. Next time... And I'd love to come to a TC rally, so maybe see you in July!
There's something about this low-speed touring that could get quite addictive.
With two spare gallons in my pizza box (it does look rather like a pizza delivery bike) I'd have a range of something like 400 miles... Great!
Martin
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Thanks to the scribe, Bill.