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Technical => Project Progress => Topic started by: Ian on January 24, 2011, 12:03:41 AM
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As I said ...another project beckons me...I must have too much time on my hands methinks
" I think I have all the bits this time"
Any comments good bad or indifferent welcomed
Ian :)
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Is it me or is the sidecar missing?
GC
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That comes under "Optional Extras"
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Best of luck with this Ian, I shall be following with a vested interest!!
Good to meet you on saturday. As I hacked through Highbury on the DR, I did pity what you would have to sit in for an hour or so... I presume Arsenal were playing....!!
(I wonder if Arsenal gets through the Filth Filther...?!)
And MR Lake, do you recognise this machine??
Cheers!
a
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Hi Andy,
many thanks for all your help manoevring the said frame and engine through the flat...god only knows how you got it through there in the first place. Yes Ar senal were playing and I did suffer a little getting through the traffic but no big deal, it took me about another half hour to get home. Frame is now stripped down, and I have to find all the bungs etc from previous resto to cover up the important holes for when its powder coated. I gave Powder Coatings at Birmingham a call this morning and asked if he still has the same colour as for the "Hybrid" frame. I may change my mind when I get there tho and see a different colour. Hopefully rebuilding will start next week :)
Ian
PS Just going to give the painter a call ;)
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Well...I did wonder....is that #3.... the 400? i recognised the seat, and the 'D' reg
but I had fitted an oxygen sensor onto the l/h downpipe...can't see that...and it's been painted
got a pic of it somewhere if you're interested in how it looked 6 years ago :-)
cheers
good luck with the rebuild
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Yes Steve it is the 400..I dont know about the number(#) tho. No sign of oxygen sensors on the downpipe. The tank has developed a leak, the forks will probably need rechroming and theres a nasty ding in the headlamp, and I have straightened out a bracket on the swinging arm. Im sure I will find lots more to keep me occupied till spring.
Ian :)
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The engine was an extremely sound unit, i ran it in my 600 chassis for 6 months while i was refurbing the 600 lump, and to be honest, with the single 40mm dellorto and open(ish) pipes it's performance wasn't that much different to the std 600, obviously a bit less acceleration, and slightly less top speed, but the 400 engine seems to rev more freely than the 600, with less vibe.
prior to selling it i honed the barrel, and fitted new rings. and as far as i can remember the head was in great condition....
anyway, good luck with the project
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Hello guys,
The downpipes are a pair that I had, polished up.
Steve, am I right in thinking that it had monoshock pipes on it initially?? I do seem to remember a lamda sensor, but that was never on it with the immediate previous owner to Ian...
Did you ever get it back??
Re. the headlamp Ian, neither Lee nor the previous guy who bought it from SteveL came off it.
Shame about the tank! :'( They do seem to go that way tho- mine did.
a
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Yup, it left me with monoshock pipes (siamesed) with a lambda sensor in the left hand pipe.
I spotted it for sale on Ebay, and mentioned it.
no, didn't get it back...it was and experiment that didn't work too well, i'd made up a circuit to constantly monitor mixture with a view to getting mixture set up correctly, but it wasn't sensitive enough, i probably co*ked up the electronics somewhere.
If you want to get the seat done up (different colour/profile) the guy who did it is still working. let me know...
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If you want to get the seat done up (different colour/profile) the guy who did it is still working. let me know...
Im undecided on the final colour of the paintwork as yet Steve. I do think I will need the seat recovering a different colour as green is quite restrictive to match with, so I may go for boring grey with piping to match the colour that I havent selected yet! (Let me know roughly how much for a recover same shape, Steve)
I have sent the frame etc for powder coating today. It will be either a "metallic" type of silver OR the same colour (code tens 19) as the hybrid! I left it to Steve at Powder Coatings as he wasnt sure he had enough paint to do a complete frame in the silver. I know this may sound a bit hit and miss but Im prepared to live with it as I havent sent the paintwork away as yet.
I "welded" the rear (plastic) panel last night (using a soldering iron) ready to be sent off for painting. . I have loads of bolts/fittings to clean and get ready for plating.
Im hoping to start rebuilding very soon.
Ian
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the upholsterer seems to charge 60 quid whatever i give him to do, and there'd be carrige on top of that
sounds like you'll have it done ready for the spring
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Just a quick update,
Frame sent off for powder coating but something leaked out of several joints on the frame and ruined the finish :( . Its now being stripped back and recoated... ah well. (A nice shade of sparkly silver)
Paintwork has been taken to my mate in Wednesfield....he seems to think he can get it sorted before Easter, colour, as is usual from him, is going to be a surprise!
Bottom yoke now resprayed black, Im a bit unsure of this so it may change colour again!
Several parts have been shotblasted and ready for plating, I have cleaned up a lot of the bolts ready for plating as well.
Left hand Frame rail was redrilled slightly oversize to clean up the sidestand mounting hole, as was the side stand. New bolt has been made to suit (from a piece of EN32 I had in my toolbox).
Ian
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Is this the said bike in a former life? or another one? If not Steve, I would like to see it as you had it. Im trying to learn from The Master
Ian
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z24/ian650/New%20SRX%20project/The_TitleCAEUCVT1.jpg)
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I'd forgotten how beautiful that bike was. Thanks for posting the picture.
GC
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No mate, that's #1.....my first srx6, which i still have....you have #2, and as soon as i can find a pic i'll post it, #3 was a 600, as was #4.
#5 is a basket case awaiting the usual treatment.
#3 is back with me, john my plumber, having done many 1000's of happy miles on it, stripped it down, spent a shed load of money on it, couldn't get it to be reliable so flogged it back to me...so #3 will become #6 as well!
good luck
ps, if you're going to redo the seat, i'll buy the current cover if it's in reaonable nik.
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No problem Steve re: the seat..I will pm you soon.
Ian
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Bit of progress, showing how far and the powder coating- I think it was worth waiting for :)
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Oooooh, lurvely ;)
GC
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Paintwork ready ...already!!! (No prizes for which bike it was based on)
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BMW R90S!
Helmut Dahn IoM 1977.
Cheers, Bill.
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Now this is going to be one good looking machine!!
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Now this is going to be one good looking machine!!
Always was Steve. It's also nice to see another take on a period theme.
Toodle pip, Bill.
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Doesn't look Orangey enough for a CZ copy though :P
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Update. Few pics of painted bits.
Also I have managed to get hold of the converter gearbox for the speedometer. (The gold one for the bottom of the cable Sold by MOTRAX [Now since gone out of business part of the Frank Thomas Group]). This allows me to use the original (KPH) Speedometer but it will now read in MPH without any further mods. Everyone you speak to will tell you they are "Unobtainable" but M&P still had over 70 of them left but I am lead to believe these really are the "LAST" ones in the country.
Ian
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Many thanks to Beeman for supplying an unmolested rear mudguard, now painted and fitted but not bolted on fully.
Ian
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coming along nicely
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A few piccies of how its coming along, and yes I did realise the side panel is on wrong side. Apologies to the purists on here!
Ian
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that is excellent work ian. looking real tasty.
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That paintwork looks way better in that latest picture. Looking good as always, Ian.
Trevor
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Trevor
Its amazing what a bit of glorious sunshine can do ;)
Ian
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Couple of updated pics (Took front mudguard off to get engine in safely)
Ian
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I love it! Very clean looking bike! I've followed this thread from the beginning and I love the work you put on the smallest details, brilliant work!
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Great job on the seat.... looks really good.....better than the one on #1.....think i'll have to get it redone.
have you had the discs blasted?
the whole bike looks a treat.....
making my efforts to bring some life to #3 a very poor second right now...
Keep up the good work
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Steve,
I did have the discs blasted and gave them a quick coat of engine enamel only to stop them degrading. Im hoping that the pads will wear the paint off where they touch (they have in the past but I have never used this paint on discs before) I may have to help them along with a bit of wet and dry.
I had the seat done by Dave Haden in Walsall Wood. (01543 375437)
Cheers
Ian
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Just a photo that maybe of interest to some on here as I vaguely recall a question being asked about said items. A "before and after" photo of a flexi/solid oil pipe for the oil cooler on the SRX.
Ian
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Aye Ian,
How do you do it Mr? ???
If and when Sally requires/gets refurbished, it would be nice to know!
Thank you in anticipation Ian.
Regards, Bill.
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Bill,
It was a "suck it and see" attempt. I had a word with my plater friends and asked if he could bright zinc plate the metal bits and would I have to destroy the pipe to get them done. He told me we could have a go at plating without dismantling, which he did do. The result is there for all to see. I did do it with a pipe that I had a duplicate of(for obvious reasons) as you can see. I have sent the remaining pipes off today and will pick up this afternoon, so hopefully full speed ahead now to get it all finished.
HTH
Ian
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Aye Ian,
Thank you for your reply.
The old 'suck it and see', with a standbye, is always a good option and good to find a tradesman willing to give it a go in these litigious times.
Pity Rosyth dockyard isn't so accessable these days! ???
My regards, Bill.
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Just a bit of an update really as Steve L has shamed me by starting later and finishing earlier :(
Here goes (photo or two will follow as soon as I can get some space round the bike).
Exhaust now fitted (bogstandard Im afraid but will certainly pass an MOT) I had to remove the isolastic type bushes from all of the mountings as they were absolutely US, and replaced them with some turned ali bushes. A bit stiff really but the hybrid has run with solid mountings for over 12 months now without any major issues.
Rear caliper now hopefully repaired, just waiting on seals to arrive. Someone drilled/tapped the inside half of the caliper with an M8 thread, obviously to remove a stubborn piston. The problem was it was drilled at an angle of about 15 degrees from vertical(a la Tower of Pisa) and not in the centre so after having removed M8 bolt and surrounding araldite I had to machine a hole in the middle of casting and counterbore on the inside. I then made a top hat type bung which was a press fit. Im hoping that this will hold the pressure. I will paint it tomorrow and hopefully get a photo of the repair.
Front brake pipes were 2 braided hoses directly from the mastercylinder one to each caliper. I find this arrangement causes the pipes to chafe more easily, so I have converted them back to a single hose from mastercylinder to an "L" shaped union under the headlamp, then separate hoses to the calipers from there. This is the same setup as original. I know there may be a little bit of loss of braking but the bike is overbraked on the front anyway.
I had to rebuild the wiring harness in the middle of the bike as there were about 10 cables that had gone virtually solid possibly from fuel vapours. This took me about 3 evenings to do but now I feel a bit more comfortable having done it. I havent checked it all as yet as I havent been able to get a battery as yet.
I think the slightly bent gearchange rod probably wont have much effect as I have assembled all the gearchange mechanism (apart from rubber boots over the rose joints) and it seems to change gear ok, only time will tell but I have a spare engine and box (which I knew was ok) to put in, but this really is a last resort.
Sprockets are both now fitted but front one needs tightening. I have used the original ratio for the 2NY 400 (14/41 with a 520 chain) I may have it wrong but I dont think it will be a disaster if I have. Im sure someone will tell me!!
I stripped/painted/rebuilt the Hagon shocks. There was an unusually long plastic top hat type piece that seated the spring at the top. The problem with this was that the spring rubbed it and it all looked a mess, so I made a replacement aluminium top hat that was a lot shorter and it def looks a lot better.
Jobs to do now include
Repair and paint chain guard.
Rebuild/fit carbs
Polish or paint the RH Engine cover (Yamaha casting painted black as I always do)
Rear Caliper to be painted/rebuilt/bled. Front to be just bled I hope.
Fuel taps to be cleaned/rebuilt etc
Few rubber hoses to be obtained/fitted
Oil and filter to be seen to
And that is it I think. Im sure there are a hundred and one more jobs that I will find along the way but there is a wee bit of light at the end of the tunnel now.
And YES It will be ridden once its completed/MOTd/Taxed
Ian :)
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Sounds like a PROPER job!..... the difference between these 2 projects is...you are doing it for YOU...i'm doing it to sell... so I have been taking the shortest route to an effective solution... If I were to keep the bike there'd be a hell of a lot of things I'd change/improve on.
OK hands up.... I bodged the rear caliper... (although i swear the angle followed the original path of the bleed nipple, which by the way had been sheered off by previous careful owner), and after the nipple had been drilled out, and the hole had been threaded, i carefully counter sunk the top edge of the hole such that with a s/s bolt with a 'o' ring on it would tighten up flush and provide a good seal.
I'm not sure a press fit device will withstand the pressure Ian.
Yes...the double banjo/2 braided hoses from the front master cylinder was also me... this is a recognised change, not to increase breaking efficiency (plenty good enough anyway) but to shorten the bleed time (i have spent literally hours bleeding the bleeding front brakes on the standard setup)
good luck... not many more late nights!
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Ian, the L shaped hose configuration you describe has less hose, so will expand less, so in theory it is better. However as Steve pointed out its not easy to bleed and this will cancel this out.
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As promised a few piccies taken as it wasnt raining tonight ;D :D ;D
Ian :)
As you can see from the photos, there are lots of small details that need finishing off
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I can only fit 4 pics on each post so here are some more ......
Ian :)
Hopefully not much more to do now!
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Oh YES, love it..... puts my efforts in the shade
would love to know how much you spent.... money wise ..(I know how much time is involved :D )
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Looking good, Ian. I'm sure they're the same sort of wheels I had on my XJ600.
I notice you've not got that stupid red warning light that comes on when you get a bit of a shift on.
Trevor
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the red '80 kph' light was only on the home (japanese) market bikes... just another little SRX quirk :)
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Ian, did you rechrome the shock springs? or are they new units? .. look fabulous.... non standard rear disc too?
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the red '80 kph' light was only on the home (japanese) market bikes... just another little SRX quirk :)
Very handy to on many of the 'Urban Freeway' type multi carriageways, around large towns and cities, 50mph limit!!!!!!!! Weegie has miles of it and plenty of cameras to charge you for the privilege of exceeding it! :(
Bill.
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Steve...
Rear shocks are bog standard Hagon items that came with the bike, apart from the top hat (spring location) that I altered and made out of Aluminium. I only dismantled them, cleaned and painted the cylinders and polished the springs using a length of rag and solvol, a job that took almost an evening to do both springs! Here is the only photo of "before" that I have. Rear disc is the same model that I put on the SRX-4 (that Trevor (tj63) now owns) bought off flea bay. As for cost..I don't really know, but I will do a quick calculation now you have asked as I'm curious myself :o
Ian :)
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Ian,
Congrats mate, looks the mutts nuts.
Really nice job, well done!
Speak soon
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Fired up first kick :)
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I expected nothing less! :)
But it is always SO satisfying when the whole plan comes together with that burst into life.
are you on the standard carbs?
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love it.
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Steve I borrowed the carbs off the hybrid just to give me a bit of time to rebuild the ones for this bike. Hoping to get it MOTd this week. Hope to have both bikes completed soon :)
Will post few final pics soon
Ian :)
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;D Passed MOT today ;D.
Final photos enclosed as promised
Just a few minor tasks to complete. Will tax it this week and use it as much as possible. Heres hoping for a nice Bank Holiday.
Ian :)
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Nice looking bit o' kit now Ian.
I'm sure you'll have grand time out on it. It'll be like a flypaper though I suspect! ;) How fast Mister? Can I buy it? I had one of those in 195*, leaked oil! Used to pull the wife and 5 kids in a greenhouse to Skegness wi' one o' them! ;)
Aye, the craic can be as much fun as the restoration and grot under the nails.
Thank you for posting the pictures.
My regards, Bill.
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Lovely m8. Far better than when it left me.... Enjoy
Is that an mph adaptor i see on the end of the speedo cable?
and are they 90 profile tyres? or the standard 80?
AND.... (sorry for all the silly questions) .. do you know if the standard srx shocks can be rebuilt/serviced ? i have a feeling SteveH said they can't, but i have 3 pairs here that are scrap if i can't get them fixed.
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You dont miss a trick (you eagle eyed bu99er!) Yes it is an MPH adaptor, still available from M&P as I wanted to keep the excellent condition original Speedometer, and Im sure the tyres are 90 (Im typing this at work so Im working off my ever deteriorating memory) Theres not a lot of room left under the front mudgard which is why the nuts are on top of it!
Im almost certain that the standard shocks cant be serviced unless you know of someone who can strip and re seal them but I think its easier to put new ones on. I was only able to rebuild the Hagon shocks because the seals were still good and I only had to basically clean and repaint them.
No question is ever sillly if you dont know the answer!
Regards
Ian :)
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Thought so, i had a problem with the 90 profile front, it actually rubbed on the underside of the guard. (mainly due to the rivets being a bit loose, and at speed the guard pressed down), in fact on the way back from the TC rally at baskerville hall, the bloody thing wore right the way through near the front.