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Title: Have a think
Post by: guest146 on February 15, 2010, 05:49:19 PM
On my Sunbeam S8 project I am looking to see if I can find an alternator to go inside what would have been the dyanmo housing and so convert to 12v while keeping its classic looks intact. I dont have much room so my question is what bike has the smallest alternator you can think of. It needs to be self contained not the sort with the magnet on the crank and winding in the casing.

Something along the lines of this.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290396163466&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thanks Ken
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: trophydave on February 15, 2010, 05:53:21 PM
Ken,have a look on the Realclassic website.There was an article on there quite recently about converting an Ariel square four to an alternator.It may give you some ideas.
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: SteveC#222 on February 15, 2010, 06:57:53 PM
Hi Ken,

You've got an S8!.. you jammy so&so...I always liked those!  ;)

Try this site
Real Classic (http://www.realclassic.co.uk/aboutfiles/about04052600.html)

You want issue 32 December 2006, it about 1/3 of the way down. An alternator convertion and Concentric carb convertion. Looks like it's available as a back issue.

Otherwise the expensive option is this

http://www.hawkerelectrical.co.uk/items/6-1_2-sunbeam-s7-and-s8-alternator-conversion-kit.htm (http://www.hawkerelectrical.co.uk/items/6-1_2-sunbeam-s7-and-s8-alternator-conversion-kit.htm)

I'll have to have a ride over and have a look one saturday when the weather improves! ;D
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: guest146 on February 15, 2010, 07:37:45 PM
Thanks Guys

I had seen the conversion Steve but its almost £400.00 mind you a new dyanmo is nealy the same.

Regards Ken
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: bobby554 on February 15, 2010, 08:47:11 PM
Have you tried AO Services

www.aoservices.co.uk/
regards bob
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: themoudie on February 15, 2010, 10:07:07 PM
On my Sunbeam S8 project I am looking to see if I can find an alternator to go inside what would have been the dyanmo housing and so convert to 12v while keeping its classic looks intact. I dont have much room so my question is what bike has the smallest alternator you can think of. It needs to be self contained not the sort with the magnet on the crank and winding in the casing.

Something along the lines of this.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290396163466&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thanks Ken

Aye Ken,

I have a friend who (if I remember correctly) has installed a 2nd hand BMW R1150 alternator and ignition on the front end of a Velo Valiant!

Would you like me to ask? If I'm correct, would you like some info? I might add that this man is adept at the 'lateral' thinking! ;D and nifty at the machining.

My regards, Bill.
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: Sprunghub on February 15, 2010, 10:33:56 PM
May be worth having a furtle around on the Velocette Owners Site too....I think they were using an alternator off a Kubota "something" - not sure what it was, but it worked, was quite readily available & not overly expensive.  In fact, if I remember right, it was something the Kubota equipment owners were throwing away ??
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: guest146 on February 16, 2010, 06:40:50 PM

Yes please
Ask him if you will .You cant have too much information,there is always someone out there that has done what you thinking about

Regards Ken

On my Sunbeam S8 project I am looking to see if I can find an alternator to go inside what would have been the dyanmo housing and so convert to 12v while keeping its classic looks intact. I dont have much room so my question is what bike has the smallest alternator you can think of. It needs to be self contained not the sort with the magnet on the crank and winding in the casing.

Something along the lines of this.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290396163466&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thanks Ken

Aye Ken,

I have a friend who (if I remember correctly) has installed a 2nd hand BMW R1150 alternator and ignition on the front end of a Velo Valiant!

Would you like me to ask? If I'm correct, would you like some info? I might add that this man is adept at the 'lateral' thinking! ;D and nifty at the machining.

My regards, Bill.
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: guest146 on February 16, 2010, 06:41:19 PM
Thanks all for your help

I have several ideas to play with

Ken
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: themoudie on February 16, 2010, 08:15:38 PM

Yes please
Ask him if you will .You cant have too much information,there is always someone out there that has done what you thinking about

Regards Ken


Aye Ken,

I've asked the question. Sit back and wait with patience now.

My regards, Bill.
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: themoudie on February 17, 2010, 10:30:16 PM

Yes please
Ask him if you will .You cant have too much information,there is always someone out there that has done what you thinking about

Regards Ken


Aye Ken,

I've asked the question. Sit back and wait with patience now.

My regards, Bill.

Aye Ken,

I have received a reply from my friend Mike. This is it in full:

 "Hi Bill.
 
I've just fitted an Alton Alternator which is really compact, (see attachments). They also do one which fits in place of a 3" dia. dynamo.
It knocks out 90watt continuous with 150 watt max.!"

Here is the URL to the Alton alternator site: Alton alternator (http://www.alton-france.com/en/index.php)

Here are links to two images of the alternator Mike has installed, contact Alton direct for further info.

Side on shot with 50p for scale (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4365713319_df04bcf12d_m.jpg)

3/4 shot with 50p for scale (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4366456684_0f8f790842_m.jpg)

I hope this helps you and others. Please let us know how you get on.

My regards, Bill.
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: guest146 on February 17, 2010, 11:03:48 PM
Thanks very much thats good of you to take the trouble

Ken
Title: Re: Have a think
Post by: themoudie on February 17, 2010, 11:17:45 PM
Thanks very much thats good of you to take the trouble

Ken

No trouble Ken.

Toodle pip, Bill.