Thumper Club Forum
Club House => Chatter => Topic started by: squirrelciv on October 23, 2009, 07:39:24 PM
-
After the last trip to Dent, I've been thinking about a trailer to pull behind the VX. Anybody got any thoughts?? I know 002 and Bruce have used them, anyone else??
One of the Cossack guys had this tesco trolley converted into a trailer. Had to admire the load carrying capacity and the single wheel design if not the looks.
Sort of like the thought of hauling kit for me and pillion without cramping up the bike space or bolting a chair perminently along side.
Over to the engineers :)
-
I've seen a couple of nice homemade jobs that used generic car roofboxes on trailers built from parts/salvage.
Like the bought ones but four figures cheaper ( :o ) and built to suit the bike...
If you're tempted to look up the commercially available ones make sure you're sitting down in a comfy chair with a stiff drink close by and Mrs Squirrel on standby with a damp cloth to mop your brow once you come round.....
-
One of the Cossack guys had this tesco trolley converted into a trailer. Had to admire the load carrying capacity and the single wheel design if not the looks.
He wasn't short with a moustache and from the Isle of Wight was he? Went by the name of Alistair?
On another note, the Pav trailers are beautiful little things and pull brilliantly.
(http://www.singlewheel.com/Scoots/PAV/Beilken/Pav009.jpg)
-
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j79/stu50uk/Trailer/pavbladeng1stor.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j79/stu50uk/Trailer/pavbladeng3stor.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j79/stu50uk/Trailer/pavbladeng2stor.jpg)
-
That Pav looks like a great use for the back end of a Vespa or Lambretta - with the engine removed and some filler welded in of course...
Dam I used to have a hammered out %gal tank from the Triton - would have run about 7 gals if it had a bottom and did nto leak - that would have made a cute but small trailer....
The Pav chassis looks doable and then imagination for the 'box'. With Pats skills with the galss fibre - as show by the tank he made - an oversize rep of the VX tank would look good.
R
-
Pat assuming that this link works you will find info re trailers law and regulations
http://www.motorcycle-luggage-trailers.info/trailers.html
-
The Pav chassis looks doable and then imagination for the 'box'. With Pats skills with the galss fibre - as show by the tank he made - an oversize rep of the VX tank would look good.
R
Somewhere on the web there is a detailed PDF image of the chassis. It's certainly very doable if you are handy with a welder. The hitch is really well designed, very simple but very effective. Self made is really the way to go as genuine Pav's are pretty expensive. Maybe a large topbox for the 'box'?
-
One of the Cossack guys had this tesco trolley converted into a trailer. Had to admire the load carrying capacity and the single wheel design if not the looks.
He wasn't short with a moustache and from the Isle of Wight was he? Went by the name of Alistair?
Ah you know that Alister too,saw him last at Popham this year,
Ref the Pav,very nice ,very sought after and very expensive,one wheel trailers look so cool :o
-
This is a doozie, there are also some photos on this site somewhere, where the owner does a long trip with the trailer.
http://www.silverwing600.com/silver-wing-topics-f3/hitch-and-one-wheel-trailer-for-my-silverwing-t601.htm?highlight=trailer
In OZ we need to pay registration fees for trailers, so the little ones don't get too much attention. Our Ulysses club has several members with a wide variety of trailers including double bed campers.
-
Ah you know that Alister too,saw him last at Popham this year,
Ref the Pav,very nice ,very sought after and very expensive,one wheel trailers look so cool :o
[/quote]
Oh yes I know Alistair! been drunk with him many times!! He used to organise the 'Klatchian Foreign Legion rally' on the Isle of Wight for the Cossack Club and friends. Had the grungiest cossack outfit known as 'Biopsy Byaxe'. He made the Tesco trailer to annoy the Goldwings! Sound bloke!
Re Pav trailers - there is one on Ebay for £595!!
-
Having never tried one of these I would be worried that if you had to brake hard and were not completley straight that it would push you and make the rear wheel skid out more so in the wet.
Heavy bike with a pillion maybe OK.
Ken
-
In the past I have towed a trailer behind my TDM850 and it is fine up to about 70mph. As i don't currently have a bike with a tow hitch you would be more than welcome to borrow the trailer to see how you get on.
G
-
Thanks guys, I knew you lot would come up trumps.
I'm defineately not thinking of buying a ready made one, I'm far too tight. I'm planning on getting a MIG set soon and learning the fine art of welding, then attempting to make my own. I was thinking of using a 12" wheel, swingarm and damper off a pit bike and fabricating a chassis to mount a car topbox too.
I'll read and inwardly digest the links thanks, and ponder some more, but I reckon this Idea's a goer.
Thanks again and keep 'em coming ;D
-
Pat,
Do a search on this site for 'bike trailers'. There was a similar thread earlier this year where I posted the PDF of the Pav on page 2. I've tried to copy & paste the picture but it won't let me. The PDF shows how straightforward the Pav chassis is - you should be able to copy it no problem.
-
Having never tried one of these I would be worried that if you had to brake hard and were not completley straight that it would push you and make the rear wheel skid out more so in the wet.
Heavy bike with a pillion maybe OK.
Ken
Basically as with everything....you ride accordingly.
You do have to be careful of how you load it,weight bias,as you would with any trailer.
Dont do as I did and carry far too much and too heavy.
Found mine great on A roads and Motorways.Could get upto 90mph with out much bother.
But when loaded and on twisty roads and roundabouts I did find it interesting to say the least.
But not enough to put me off.
Still got my BMW 80/100GS tow Bar and the home made trailer is waiting to be tried out behind my outfit.
Have had it behind a Trike and managed to touch a ton on the way to Builth Wells one year chasing a GSXR and had no bother ;D
Jethro
-
I've just bought a new trailer, probably a tad too big for your needs though, it's a 5'x3' box trailer with a hinged door at the rear and it's perfect for transporting my cement mixer. It will also double up as our bicycle transporter for summer hols.
I couldn't really afford it, but I've been keeping an eye out for one and I saw it parked on a drive with a 'for sale' sign on it. The haggling was a bit intense, but I got a good percentage knocked off and I was pleased with the final figure. I was less pleased when I tested the lights (which were perfect) and then removed the trailer, forgetting the electric connection, tearing all the wires from the connector ::) However, that's an easy fix and less troubling than the task of telling wifey that I've bought it. For now I've got it stashed in the garage waiting for a suitable moment to tell her... which could be some time :D
GC
-
Had a Squire D10 (their smallest, 2 wheel trailer) hitched to W650 last year. Totally stable, handles fine inc braking, except v slight understeer accelerating out of roundabouts. Still have hitch and trailer, plan to fit (some time!) onto CX500, if I can mention that bike here. Bought the trailer 2nd hand but still VERY pricey. My logic (?) was wanted to try trailer experience, but thought maybe a crap one would be...crap, so try a good one first.
Long term plan is: set up trailer hitch on CX, get it right, then try with cheap trailer (eg Halfords one). If ok, SELL posh trailer! Cheap trailer can stand on its end in garage.
Things you might think about:
**takes up lots of space in garage (single wheel much better!)
**costs a FORTUNE on ferry. Perhaps only UK use.
**lower speed limit (not that cameras would notice)
** PAVs look gorgeous, but that tiny wheel is VERY tiny. If making yr own, maybe go for modern scooter wheel, ie ten inch? Friend of mine into old scooters is thinking this way, planning to turn back half of an old scooter into a trailer.
**Can't get much on a PAV. If making yr own, have seen single wheel trailer with Givi side rails added, so you can put PANNIERS on it. Seemed clever.
Whatever you do, I'm sure lots of us would be interested to see how it works out. It does seem a solution to camping with yr other half, esp long trips. And if you are in Scotland, you could borrow my trailer for testing purposes while building a hitch.
Good luck!
-
A trailer on a bike- For F*cks Sake-
Get a Car!!
;D
-
Insert Quote
A trailer on a bike- For F*cks Sake- Get a Car!!
That's kind of bin my problem... after I got a trailer, my partner bought a car. Hence trailer not getting much use, and not much impetus to hitch it to another bike. Cars, eh?
-
A trailer on a bike- For F*cks Sake-
Get a Car!!
;D
I suspect you're only a hair's breadth away from having a go at sidecars too :D :D
GC
-
You might find Halfords trailers too wide for Motorcycle use !
Bike trailer maximum over all width 1m.
Jethro
-
A trailer on a bike- For F*cks Sake-
Get a Car!!
;D
Used to think along similar lines, until I went camping next to the guy with the trailer/sidecar. Watching the 6 perth tent/folding chairs/double airbed/2 ring cooker/tantern/crate of beer/ etc etc get unloaded soon had me thinking 8). The way I see it, a trailer will allow me to haul enough kit to make camping luxurious whilst keeping the bike narrow. Once base camp is set up, all I have to do is un-hitch and I'm back to a solo for running about on.
Done enough years 'minimalist' to deserve a little comfy time ;D
-
OY!!! Squirrel
Normally i would not bother but you had a go at my spellinck so. Erm well so there you, you, thing person you. Yes ok i will get of your threde now.
the gayloed.