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Title: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: squirrelciv on July 18, 2009, 07:48:41 AM
Looks like Lucy (the VX) is a sulker! Been spending some shed time on Abigail recently and Lucy must be feeling left out cos she decided to leek petrol out through her rusty tank. First I knew was on my way to work. Touched the rear brake only to find the back end losing all grip on the approach to a roundabout! :o Reason... Petrol all over the place and coming out of the base of the tank. :'(

Yesterday spent with PETSEAL and hopefully sorting the leaks out. Anyone used this stuff?? I've followed the destructions and it promises great results, but what's the view out there??
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: srx6 on July 18, 2009, 08:28:33 AM
I have used Petseal in my XLV.It was only weeping very slightly.It has been in over 12 months now with no problems.So can re comend it.

Alan
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: guest7 on July 18, 2009, 09:59:21 AM
Eerie, exactly the same thing happened to my VX.

GC
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: SRXer on July 18, 2009, 10:11:03 AM
I used two lots of petseal in a SRX tank and it still leaked, I can only guess I was just getting it wrong.

Nathan
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: squirrelciv on July 18, 2009, 02:59:28 PM
Eerie, exactly the same thing happened to my VX.

GC

Looks like there is a tiny sump at the base of the tank which must be where the condensation collects. My rattling of some nuts to knock off the lose rust produced three nice holes in that area. I sanded off the paint and dolloped on some apoxy two pack resin on the outside before pouring in the petseal.

Did you manage to seal your VX tank OK No1?

Will be testing for leaks tommorrow after giving it 48 hours to cure. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: 002 on July 18, 2009, 10:52:53 PM
Have used it successfully is several tanks.

Some tanks need 2 kits at once to get the coverage.
Always buy from a good source,it does have a shelf life/useby date.

Jethro
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: Mark on July 19, 2009, 11:15:07 AM
I have used petseal with some success on some tanks but didn't work on the SRX. There are supposedly better products on the market, the three part kits(cleaner, etcher and sealer) more expensive but recommended.

There are quite a number of people who advise against petseal because it is prone to breaking up and flaking off and then is a pig to remove and redo.

As Jethro said if you do use it check the useby date.
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: squirrelciv on July 19, 2009, 07:16:02 PM
Attempt number one was a failure :'( Followed the instructions to the letter, but the tank still leaks from the same spot. Swilling the tank out with acetone now to clean out the petseal. Choices as I see it are;
1 ~ start again, but use two tins (VX tank is quite large)
2 ~ Buy a new tank (Eek!)
3 ~ get this tank welded.

Anyone got any idea of who and how much on option 3?? Cardiff guys, do you know anyone??

The big ball ache is I need the bike to get me to work so off road time is a real hassle.

Not a happy bunny >:(
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: themoudie on July 19, 2009, 08:28:44 PM
Aye Pat,

Have a look see at this Fleabay Item for a possible replacement tank: 280200016003

Might help, even if rough but whole.

Regards, Bill.

P.S. Racing any good?
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: blew on July 19, 2009, 08:42:39 PM
I might know someone in the Swansea Valley area who could possibly weld it.I can ask tomorrow if you want.
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: Mark on July 19, 2009, 08:52:58 PM
When the petseal didn't work for me I cleaned the leak area externally and applied a layer of Araldite, fixed the leak and haven't had a problem since, got to be 2 months ago now.

Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: 002 on July 19, 2009, 10:06:45 PM
If the hole is underneath and out of the way,go to a good Motorfactors and get a car product.

I have used Petropatch in the past and it works a treat.It is used externally for car petrol tanks.

Dont forget if you are stuck a bar of soap can be rubbed into the effected area to have a temporary cure.

Jethro
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: squirrelciv on July 20, 2009, 06:29:00 AM
Thanks #2 think I'll give that a go, the leak is un the underside out of sight. I reckon the long term plan will be to have it welded, but I'll need a second bike up and running first.

Not too impressed with petseal. Judging by the layer thickness of the stuff I'm cleaning out, I had a good coating, plus getting hold of the stuff is proving difficult. You can order it ok, but no one holds stock. Only found the one bottle last time round and would have to travel to M & P to get anymore today!

Blew buddy, I'd be greatful if you could ask the question just in case this latest idea doesn't work.
Cheers all.
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: guest27 on July 20, 2009, 07:51:17 AM
I understand that Caswell epoxy is good - but have never used it.

R

http://www.caswelleurope.co.uk/gastank.htm (http://www.caswelleurope.co.uk/gastank.htm)
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: squirrelciv on July 20, 2009, 08:06:53 PM
Trying out some plastic padding 'Leak-fix'. If the blurb on the packet is to be believed it should do the trick. It seems ok for now, but the 'O' ring around the fuel tap is now leaking ::) I've applied a little silicone and bolted it all up tight, but will leave it till tommorrow morning to see if it will resist the petrol. Wish me luck boys.

I've come to another conclusion and that is the VX is a long term keeper. That means a proper welded repair will be called for at some time. Any ideas who can do this?? I think Ren 'n' ink do tank repairs but they'll probably cost me a kidney. Heard firms that repair radiators can fix tanks too. Is that right??
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: blew on July 20, 2009, 08:39:16 PM
I've spoken to my friend and he said he can weld it.He welded the tank on my GPZ a few years ago and it's been fine since.He will be very reasonable too!!! If you want it done,let me know and I'll give you his number.
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: squirrelciv on July 21, 2009, 06:10:03 PM
Thanks Blew, I may take you up on that in the future but for now, the Leak-fix is working and I'm skint!

Glad to report no leaking petrol this morning. Bearing in mind my VX is one of the last made and GC's comment that his VX tank also rusted through, I'm going to keep my eye open for a second hand one. If I find one, I'll get the better tank well and truly sorted before fitting it.

Thanks for all the tips, especially #002  one about the car tank sealer. Wish I'd thought of that before the £17 for petseal and the 2 days of cleaning out the tank. ::)
Title: Re: Lads, we have a sulker!
Post by: guest146 on July 24, 2009, 08:00:39 PM
I would recomend if you use a tank sealer you also use the recomended cleaning stuff. I used Frost  sealer with good results but used the caustic cleaner and the detergent as well its expensive at about 37.00 but sets like steel. I know someone who used petseal and its all; falling off and blocking the tap every few days.

ken