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themoudie

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Re: #1 srx is playing up
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2017, 03:49:59 PM »
Aye Steve,

Bu55er! :(

There was me listening to the ClassicTT and the Manx GP since last Saturday, with a slight tinge of green, thinking that you would be over, lapping it up!  :-\  Instead you're shedding teeth and shrapnel all over the Swaffham by-pass. Not good.  :(

Have a word with Martin at Slipstream if the crank needs attention and maybe a pair if 5th gears. I obtained my spares from Fowlers, genuine Yamaha, but mainshaft (input) 5th gear pinion (1VJ-17151-01) is now listed as unobtainable!  :(  Whilst, the layshaft (output) 5th gear wheel (2JT-17251-10) is obtainable on backorder at £74-62 + P&P + 20%VAT. Whereas, Kedo have both still available, at the time of writing, but priced in Euro that after conversion equal £96-83 (input) and £117-04 (output) respectively including VAT + P&P + VAT!  :(  :-X

These motors are no longer a 'cheap' option to repair once they go "Phut!".

XT600E motor now together and the assembling process of the Mono is starting as is the Duke 450. Drop us a PM if you wish and I hope you have something else on which to remove the cobwebs around the Norfolk "drifts".  ;)

Good health. My regards, Bill


Steve Lake

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Re: #1 srx is playing up
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2017, 04:05:56 PM »
Hi Bill, thanks for the info ...
Thinking 'outside the box' (i think that is the common parlance these days for what we know as 'use yer 'ead boy' ),
i have 4 srx400 motors in various states of disrepair, and am wondering if i can pillage the gears from one of them ... worth a look i think ...
Yes, pressing #1 Sons Morini 3 1/2 sport into service so's i have some wheels for a poodle round the lanes, organising mot as i type ...

oh, i also have the bottom end of an XT600 ... woner if that might provide the bits i need ... i know the gearing will be different, but can resolve that with a change of front and rear sprockets if required.

good to hear all your projects are 'coming along nicely' even if, as you say, one increasingly needs deeper & deeper pockets.

pip pip

themoudie

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Re: #1 srx is playing up
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2017, 10:40:41 PM »
Aye Steve,

If you go to the Fowler's parts lists for SRX400 1985, both European and Japanese models have the same part numbers for both the pinion and the wheel gears and the pinion gears have a first 3 digits (1JK) part number.

The 1988 SRX400 both European and Japanese models have the same part numbers for both the pinion and the wheel gears. But the pinion gear has a different first 3 digits (2JT) from the 1985 model.

The 1986 and 1987 SRX600 European models have the same part numbers for both the pinion and the wheel gears. But the pinion gear has a different first 3 digits (1VJ) from the SRX400 models.

The 1986 XT600 European models have the same part numbers as the 1986 and 1987 SRX600 European models.

The 1994 XT600 European models however, have the same part numbers as the 1986 XT600 European models apart from the pinion gear first 3 digits (3YP).

The 1987 - 1990 XTZ600 Teneree has the same part numbers including the first 3 digits of the pinion gear, as the 1988 SRX400. The 1986 models has the same pinion gear part number first 3 digits (1VJ) as the 1986 - 1987 SRX600 models.

I think that you could use gears so long as you replace them in pairs, count the number of teeth and measure O.D. very carefully!  ;)

Also be aware that replacement of the 5th gear wheel on the layshaft (output) requires a press to remove the 2nd gear wheel and then to replace it, as this retains the 5th gear wheel on the shaft. When pressing the 2nd gear wheel back onto the shaft the clearance between the gears is critical, as is the overall width of the gear cluster, which needs to be measured before dismantling and the 2nd gear can bind and the jump when being pressed onto the shaft, resulting in dismantling and starting again!  >:(  So, I entrusted mine to Slipstream.  ;)

I hope this helps rather than befuddles (bit like Abbott! ;) )

Maybe a 400 motor would be OK?  :-\  On second thoughts, NAH!  :-X

My regards, Bill
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Re: #1 srx is playing up
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2017, 06:34:46 PM »
Bill .... i'm entering you into the next series of mastermind, specialist subject 'Yamaha SRX series of motorcycles 1985 to 1991'

thanks for the info, i shall strip out the 400's and see what might or might not work, failing that the XT600 bottom end i have loafing about somewhere, then it'll be the oldest trackbike which has a pukka srx600 motor in it.

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Re: #1 srx is playing up
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2017, 09:16:28 PM »
(are you out there Andy  ;) )

UNLESS ... anyone has some for sale ??


I am!!  And I dont, but I did have, but they're away.

I bought a pair about 15 years ago (really?!?!  Faaark!) And I remember them bring 45 quid each then....

But sounds like its all become a bit academic since then....

However, more recently I have used Wurth Bond n seal, and it would do nicely for this.  Also yes,  sikaflex, a friend of the plastic car owner!

Rebuild time steve? Always a good excuse to "improve", not that no1 needed it mind....

Good luck!

A

Ps talking of plastic cars, mine went to oz, and I "found" it recently for sale.  Ye gods!!

http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/cars-for-sale/1986-RELIANT-SCIMITAR-GTE-SE6-JCW4010762?backurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.justauto.com.au%2Fjustcars%2Fcars%2Freliant%2Fscimitar&backtext=Results



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Re: #1 srx is playing up
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2017, 11:14:34 PM »
Aye Andy,

Good to read the dulcit Weegie!  ;) Trust you and yours in good fettle?

As for the "Plastic Sword" £15,532.03, seems not bad after purchase, shipping, carriage and refurbishment, with the exclusivity of being the sole example of it's type in Oz. Maybe, a couple of ES2's these days, or maybe half a rough M30!   ::)

How is the strip down going Steve and what have you found lurking between the cases?  :o

Good health.

My regards, Bill