sidecar only for luggage

[hondamichael]

i always have some problems
when i make hollidays with the bike or when i go shopping .... space  i was looking for a sidecar frame with wheel , and attach a roofbox for cars on  it  that should sort out my space problem once and for all , my 250 is stron enough to pull a sidecar ...ok topspeed may drop a bit
problem 1: my budged is low very low and nearly does not exist at all in the moment
problem 2: i have no garage
problem 3 i have no tools to fit anything
problem 4 my bike is my only form of transport
any ideas how i could realise the project in a couple month ?

i would also suggest getting something like that
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/squire-two-seater-sidecar_W0QQitemZ320086602396QQihZ011QQcategoryZ36796QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

it would be ideal if its starts heavy raining or snowing to have a dry place , i could even stay a night in it on a longer trip , but i`m concerned if it might be a bit on the heavy side , but then in the 50`s they had heavy steel sidecars on their bikes wich had even less power compare to the 20 bhp of my 250  and there would still be the money and how to fit it problem

[Bruce]

Have you though about a trailer for behind the bike easy and cheap to have one made no problem attaching and removing although you will not be able to sleep in it you would be able to carry lots of extras if you go camping.

[hondamichael]

the sleeping inside the sidecar was only a funny idea
yes i thought about a trailer , one wheel trailer for the obvious reasons , narrow as the bike itself does not influens the handling negative while cornering , because its leaning into the corner like the bike , had one years ago behind my vespa ...it was a pav40 from the czech republic , i dont fancy the idea of a two wheeled trailer , other thing is my 250 has a nice plastic body and it would be a sacreleg to cut out bits to fit a hook of some sort , and another prob as stated i`m on road parking , have no garage so nowhere to store it , ok might be possible at some mates but i dont fancy the idea if i need to go shopping to ride 10 miles to get the trailer and then go shopping 3 miles away from home and after bring back the trailer then ride  home again , because if i park it here somewhere it will get nicked within the first 24 hours , so a sidecar is the more convenient form of transport , and i`ve ridden a bike with sidecar before and it made realy fun to ride especially in these twisties on a tour in the swiss alps  (gpz305 with velorex sidecar of a mate )

[guest7]

I'd wait to see if a velorex chair comes up on Ebay, especially the big wheel version ( they just look better imho).

They are light chairs and well made.

As for fitting, there are a number of charioteers in the club who can help out with advice. If you are lucky you can get a velorex with most of the fittings you will need.

Another option might be the lightweight Squire Dart like the one smudge fitted:


Cheers
GC

[hondamichael]

i look out for a velorex or squire sidecar  , the squire looks very light
just found in my owners manual  this part :

this motorcycle was not designed to pull a sidecar or trailer , handling may be seriously impaired if so equipped


but i think no motorcycle was designed with the intension to pull a sidecar anyway apart perhaps the older MZ or BMW or URAL ....to name a few
so no problem there , if handling gets too bad there may still be the option of fitting leading link forks

[hondamichael]

and another thing what brought me against the trailer behind the motorcycle ...i want to ravel also in europe
and in spain are trailer`s behind motorcycles not allowed , in germany you are limited to a topspeed of 60km/h/40mph even on german autobahns !!so you are slower then a lorry which are allowed to do 50mph and even a car with a modern caravan is allowed to do 62mph
and they are very happy to give you a fine if you go faster :-(

[guest18]

The squire is indeed VERY light. With a bag of sand in the chair it will still lift the chair wheel with very little provocation. (I was followed to a local bike shop by a friend and when I said I thought I'd only lifted the chair wheel twice he looked at me oddly and said "you lifted the wheel on almost every left hander, the ones you're talking about it was WAY off the ground.."
Goes well though

[hondamichael]

i think the lifting the chair is part of the fun with a combo,
 and with a solo bike on hollidays you always have to remember and plan where to put what so it stays half way balanced ,and its still always a compromise on a solo bike ,some things you always have to leave at home because its to heavy or to wide or to long and after the first campside in the early morning  the confusing question  where was everything on the bike  or how did i manage to get all this stuff  in the topbox yesterday ?

(i talk about 2- 3 weeks hollidays ,for a weekend away a solobike is ok )

[guest27]

2 weeks two up on RD500 camping on IoM - it all seemed to fit into a pair of throw overs, a tank bag and a climbing sack, with the tent strapped across the back.  Mind do not need too thick - a - sleeping bag with a fiesty young filly in tow.  And when it rain (as it does) you need to go to the pub to dry out.

Never ridden a charriot - they look fun but I would worry that I would do what a friend did about two weeks after passing his car test - tried to filter past a queue of traffic at some lights.

Concluded that having to reverse back past all the traffic was less embatrrasing than if he had tried to filter between the queues

R

[hondamichael]

i know it works with panniers ,bags ,tent, have done a trip to spain /south france on a honda dax 70with girlfriend on the back , everything is possible

[guest7]

i know it works with panniers ,bags ,tent, have done a trip to spain /south france on a honda dax 70with girlfriend on the back , everything is possible

Splutter! Whaaaaaaat?! A Dax 70?
Blimey :-)

GC

[hondamichael]

its realy a good touring bike space for two +luggage and still does 200mpg ok its not the fastest topspeed 40mph , 35mph two up , but it is real fun to ride and it gets you wherever you want to ride

[Ian]

Isn't it time that the side cars were ditched for something more cool ?
Just put a trailer behind one of these !


http://www.flytheroad.com/


And I totally agree with Richard Hammond about the guns / missile launchers

[hondamichael]

we had all this before in the 50`s /60in the days when people could not afford proper cars
look
http://www.kabinenroller.de/fotos/kr200/show.asp?now=04&count=12

[Steffan]

Isn't it time that the side cars were ditched for something more cool ?
Just put a trailer behind one of these !


http://www.flytheroad.com/


I rather fancy I could keep one of these on the road. All the same its not the Bullet or the ETZ or........