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Smithy

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GN 400 electrical upgrades
« on: May 06, 2013, 09:17:37 PM »
There are lots of things that define me as an idiot and electrics on bikes is just one of them. I am building a minimalistic bobber out of my GN400 and due to aforementioned idiocy have decided to have the electrics done by a professional, but I'm curious. When I stripped out the old loom the regulator and rectifier are old fashioned seperate units and I wondered if the electrical wizard will be ablt to update them?

I'm going for a very basic wiring set up with no battery hopefully so that there's nothing to go flat whilst I'm using my ER5.

themoudie

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Re: GN 400 electrical upgrades
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2013, 10:56:33 PM »
Aye Smithy,

Solid state, encapsulated, all in one unit , with a big heat sink. May cost the combined price of the two old instruments and if it goes 'pop' will require replacing, no repairs. But they usually go on for years and never wear out or rattle to bits.

In 1976 when I acquired the Duke 450, electronic ignition, a 60w alternator and 6v electrics fed through verdigris green crimped connections at the ends of wisp like copper strands, encased in multicoloured spaghetti became  my bĂȘte noire! Only the consideration and kindly help of a competent electrical engineer, using Ford Escort, modified points and advance/ retard unit, an MZ 250 coil, a + earth zener diode and a Triumph rectifier along with a complete rewire and 12v bulbs got the bike back on the road.

Keep it simple, solder every joint, rubber mount everything, be scrupulous  with earth leads and vaseline or ACF50 well, use tinned wire of the correct amperage rateing and tinned connectors with insulators. Not cheap, but trying to trace infuriating 'shorts', in the peeing rain, with numb fingers, at the side of the M6 are a memory that haunts me.

Another is pushing the bike from Victoria Station across London, to Euston station after the electrics shorted, just outside Maidstone on a January afternoon. I had to get the train, with the bike, back to London from Hertfordshire the next day, to go to Liverpool and across to Peel! Ended up sleeping in a vacant ticket collectors box in Liverpool, with the heater turned up, afore firing the old girl up to ride to the Liver Pier on a jury rigged battery, with no lights, again in the rain. Queuing with the "judies" for a mug of tea and bacon roll with HP sauce, was an education!  ::)

All the best, with which ever way you decide to sort it.

My regards, Bill.

Smithy

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Re: GN 400 electrical upgrades
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2013, 04:22:55 AM »
Thanks for that mate it is good to know it can be made modern as I intend to use it a lot when it's finished. Which is exactly why I am going to have it professionally rewired. I'm alright with a spanner but as far as I'm concerned electricity is pushed around wires by magic pixies who won't tell me how it's done.

It's great to remember our motorcycling adventures isn't it. I remember one night having to walk back down a country lane pushing my Triumph looking for the gear lever that had dropped off! I found it and carried on home only to be stopped by the police for a friendly chat about being a young man on a motorbike in the early hours of the morning! To be fair the Triumph was a bit raucous and I didn't exactly hang about in those days, they were good old fashioned coppers though and let me off with a bollocking (their exact words).

johnr

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Re: GN 400 electrical upgrades
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2013, 03:53:35 PM »
is there nothing from the slightly later dr400 that will fit it, iirc the dr had 12 electrics and so might be able to provide more reliable and useful power output than the awful 6v system on the gn.

Smithy

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Re: GN 400 electrical upgrades
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2013, 08:49:42 PM »
To be honest I don't know, but the guy who is going to do the re-wire is very knowledgable and I will discuss it with him. Thanks for the suggestion mate.