new small thumper

[hondamichael]

her comes a small new thumper with 200cc from bajaj (india ) (and for all who don`t know it bajaj works close together with kawasaki , dont know if possible to get it in britain  but it looks nice
ok the fans of s***loads of power and fans of topspeed past legal limits shouldn`t read further ,
http://www.bajajauto.com/pulsar/index.htm
press release
http://www.bajajauto.com/test/press/pulsar200_2007.asp
some features stainless steel exhaust , alloy endcan , the cdi unit cuts of sparks ones reached 10000 rpm , once youve reached 9000rpm a red light in the tachometer starts to flash , the indicator in the dash has a second feature it starts to flash once there are only 4 liter left in the tank , btw the indicators turn of automaticly once you`ve finished your turn
they also produce a 180cc (soon too with 200cc )version of the kawasaki eliminator 125 called avenger
http://www.bajajauto.com/avenger/index.asp

[Andy M]

Beats those city scooters for me while keeping lots of nice practical features. Styling reminds me of those 180 Gilera's. Only problem is that being mean I'm going to have to wait and see what they cost on e-bay when they hit 2 1/2 years old!

Andy

[hondamichael]

Beats those city scooters for me while keeping lots of nice practical features. Styling reminds me of those 180 Gilera's. Only problem is that being mean I'm going to have to wait and see what they cost on e-bay when they hit 2 1/2 years old!

Andy

why waiting 2 1/2 years , if it realy comes to europe it may not cost a lot , brand new  in india it cost £ 859.43 on the road
so it could come to the uk for less then a grand brand new !!!! but ok ,uk dealers prefere to add severel hundred pounds as profit to theire bikes so it may cost around £1500 if there is an importer for bajaj in the uk

[guest7]

I like that, looks very practical and just the right capacity, i.e. not too gutless, but not too heavy and thirsty.

My brother recently bought a £425 chinese scooter: 125cc 4-stroke, disc brakes, brand new in a crate. With delivery and registration it came to £600. He bought it to save his TDM850 from suffering on his short commute. The bike easily does 60-70mpg and has proved to be so easy to live with that he now actually prefers to use it all the time around town.

It's easy to criticise Chinese, Indian and Korean bikes, but we laughed at the Japanese too.

GC

[Andy M]

£1500 gives a lot of alternatives, £600 obviously less, but at the minute i'm running an MZ commuter that'd cost £350 to replace if I blew if up properly! I'm sure 25 years ago the same argument would have been made for buying a cosmetically challenged BSA Bantam over a CG100 and now the BSA is a classic and Honda the hack, so i'll get there, just not yet. Told you I was tight!

That said, second hand prices seem to be getting odd. Anyone taken a look at CG125 prices on E-bay? You can buy new Chinese for less than 3 year old Japanese. If the difference remains, 3 year old Chinese might beat 15 year old German yet.

Andy

[guest7]

Ah yes, young Metcalf, let's talk about that MZ. I seem to remember that you spent an age Rally-prepping it then it blew up on its maiden test run.

And then you went silent on the subject :-)

Please tell more.
GC

[Andy M]

Ah yes, young Metcalf, let's talk about that MZ. I seem to remember that you spent an age Rally-prepping it then it blew up on its maiden test run.

And then you went silent on the subject :-)

Please tell more.
GC

Yep, all ready for the Elefant and it seized on the way back from Scarborough!

80 mph laid on the tank and the back wheel stopped. It's funny, I can remember the speedo (driven off the rear wheel) showing zero as all my old MX skills came flooding back. I grabbed the clutch, so I only left about 1000 miles worth of tyre on the A-64 (plus my lunch). Having pushed it a mile and called the RAC I gave it a test prod and the ****** fired up. Called the RAC back to cancel the cavalry and rode home.

I got the head off and found nothing except a bit of detonation marking in the soot on the piston crown to I put it back together. It's now done 2000-odd km with nothing more than a resealed exhaust nut, an extra dose of oil in the first tank of petrol after the seize and taking the bar muffs off.

I'm stumped as to why it seized. Two ideas are left after colourtune tests, chop tests, test runs and so forth. One, the clutch was slipping (I heard it), because of the bar muffs. I think if correct, 80 mph was about 12000 rpm but the stroke pump (as set by the throttle position) was only ready for 9000 (this is probably not good). Idea two, the exhaust was leaking which (I'm told) by some devious means upsets the back pressure in a stroker and makes it run lean and hot. Less stuff in the way to hold each new charge in? Can't get my head round that to be honest, too much going on at once in these strokers, but it runs way better after the firegum treatment. It made a lovely noise blipping through the gears with the exhaust basically open though (Yes, it's not big or clever, only fun, unless you live on my route to work)!!!

So, I don't know. I got a spare piston and barrel, so I can just wait and ride and see. It can't be that bad, it'll still do 85. The journey through my biking childhood continues. I love the light and revvy way it rides, it's just a pity they don't do blue stroke oil anymore, the red isn't the same.

Andy "I love the smell of two stroke in the morning" Metcalfe

[hondamichael]

 i personally too think that these chinese ,indian bikes are getting better and better from the quality
some examples  kawasaki is selling the bajaj bikes under theire name on the phillipines , suzuki is producing  bikes and bikeparts  in china(engines and things like that, which they import to japan and rebage them ) under the name jincheng , honda does the same under the name zongcheng , because of the import taxes in china and theire is no need for big bikes in these countrys , the people theire need bikes for a means of  transport , and cant afford to spend all theire income on fuel ,
 thats why i have choosen my honda cbf250, originally a honda cbx250 twister and very popular in brasilia (where it`s build ) and the rest of south and middle america , it does easy 100mpg while doing ~70mph , my trip to europe (dover-france -belgium-germany-swizerland-italy-france-germany -belgium-france-dover )  on the whole trip of just 2800 miles in two weeks i achieved the worth 90mpg -and the best 116 mpg , and its ideal for these narrow twisty mountain roads  of swizerland/french alps

[bullet350]

i read an article recently that said there was almost 800 motorbike companies in China!
twenty years from now old japanese men in pubs will talk of the day jap bikes were best before the chinese got in on it.

"they don't build 'em like they used to. i used to have a 1998 fireblade, they were real bikes back then; not like this chinese crap"

350bullet

[guest27]

Ahh - but unlike the Brit buffers in Sluberslade Hall - the Japs are buying into the Chineses and Indian companies - Just think with a bit of forethought BSA could have bought a stake in Suzuki, Norton in Yamaha etc....


Oh well possibly best they did not

R