Author Topic: XBR master cylinder seals  (Read 826 times)

500 T C

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
XBR master cylinder seals
« on: June 14, 2014, 02:21:52 PM »
Does anyone know the correct way of assembling the seals on the piston of the master cylinder?
  I have looked on several drawings/manual, but its about as clear as mud. If some one has an idea, I would be grateful.

Propellor

  • Posts: 1187
Re: XBR master cylinder seals
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 03:38:40 PM »
Does anyone know the correct way of assembling the seals on the piston of the master cylinder?
  I have looked on several drawings/manual, but its about as clear as mud. If some one has an idea, I would be grateful.

If I'm showing something you already know, then I apologise in advance.

The following section drawing is a good representation of how the spring and cup seals are arranged. Not a motorcycle application but the principle is spot on, unless the xbr is radically different in some way? A decent section drawing is far superior to an exploded view IMHO.

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?42656-How-does-a-master-brake-cylinder-work

BEIGE is all the rage

500 T C

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
Re: XBR master cylinder seals
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 10:53:33 PM »
thanks propeller, I had the primary seal around the wrong way, the front brake is now bled and working.

Propellor

  • Posts: 1187
Re: XBR master cylinder seals
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2014, 07:46:05 PM »
thanks propeller, I had the primary seal around the wrong way, the front brake is now bled and working.

You're welcome. Result.

Hope you had a good ride out today. Weather not the best around here, but we still made the best of it.
BEIGE is all the rage

Propellor

  • Posts: 1187
Re: XBR master cylinder seals
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2014, 09:07:00 PM »
Incidentally, the reason oil is behind the primary seal is not, i believe, the reason given by antar in my attached link. I only attached the link because the diagram was the clearest I could find on tinternet.

Antar says oil is behind the primary seal to stop the bore from rusting, but brake fluid is highly hygroscopic, so it's difficult to keep water OUT of it! The actual reason there are two seals is explained in "sportbike performance handbook" by Kevin Cameron. It is to do with stopping fluid escaping from the reservoir once the brake lever is applied. That's also the reason there are two holes into the reservoir and not just one.

The one very important thing missing from a lot of these diagrams is the fact that the top side of the bellows has to be vented to atmosphere. Meaning that the entire system is exposed to atmospheric pressure, but not to atmosphere itself, when the lever is relaxed.

Cheers.
BEIGE is all the rage