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Stainless Bolts
« on: October 21, 2008, 08:42:40 PM »
Anyone know where stainless bolts cannot be used on a bike?
As their tensile strength is less than ordinary carbon steel, I'm about to order some but they cant be used for highly stressed areas- Titanium is better- obviously the swingarm pivot bolt, but are engine mounts stressed?   ???

Also, I was going to use Stagonset as they do small quantities- anyone dealt with these before or can anyone recommend someone else?

Steve H

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Re: Stainless Bolts
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2008, 06:53:06 AM »
This page is quite useful http://www.inoxgrp.co.uk/prodtech.htm.
Personally I wont use stainless on the front brake fittings. I've used stainless disc bolts on the rear from Inox but I beleive they were made from quite high grade of stainless. I used standard Yamaha items on the front disc.
Inox are a good compant to deal with, the guy is always very helpful and delivers quickly

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Re: Stainless Bolts
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2008, 10:42:25 AM »
right or wrong I have always used stainless on my srx's discs.....they are so over engineered that I can't see that there would be a problem, maybe some heed should be paid when contemplating doing the same on a 160bhp missile. the important thing is the use of loctite

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Re: Stainless Bolts
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2008, 11:45:44 AM »
My feeling is it isnt worth taking the risk with safety critical items, but this is just a personal approach.


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Re: Stainless Bolts
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2008, 12:37:10 PM »
The heat worries me on brakes. Cycling cold-hot-warm-hot-cold tends to undo fasteners. The torques on brake disk fasteners are designed to mitigate this within other design constraints. Basically they over torque over designed bolts on the basis that a big lump is harder to turn and still has more clamping force when loose. The safety factors are large but I really don't know how large. If you change the materials you should change the torques. No idea what to, a clever chap in Germany used to tell me those and would alway deny there was any add on safety factor!

Don't forget there are different grades of stainless and remember stainless into other materials needs lube which in turn effect the torques. For say bodywork it really doesn't matter, for other things it's a harder decision.

I'll use A2 stainless on anything except brakes to be honest. Other grades and Titanium are so expensive you could just bin the normal steel once a year and still be in profit when the engine goes pop

Andy


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Re: Stainless Bolts
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2008, 01:59:54 PM »
I was mainly looking at cosmetics for the bolts- I would leave the disc bolts as they are, also the swingarm bolt, and also the shock bolts. But things like clip ons, engine mounts, brake caliper mounts, engine casings etc I was looking at A2 grade stainless.

Do you think this sounds ok?  ???