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Chatter / Re: Cautionary insurance tale
« Last post by Steve Lake on April 04, 2024, 10:19:45 PM »
just adding salt to the wound isn't it
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Chatter / Cautionary insurance tale
« Last post by iansoady on April 04, 2024, 02:48:19 PM »
As you will know, I had the Tri-Greeves and the XBR500 stolen a couple of weeks ago. I have to say that the brokers, RH were very efficient and the underwriters paid up the agreed values (less £50 excess for each) this week. So far so good.

However, when I tried to add the 2 new bikes (BSA/Suzuki and Yamaha SRV250) to the policy I was told that the underwriters (ERS) wouldn't accept them. Not only that but they wouldn't renew the policy for the Norton, which is due for renewal in a couple of weeks!

On enquiring further I discovered that as 2 bikes had been stolen they were treating it as 2 separate claims - I did wonder why I'd had to fill in 2 virtually identical forms - so that meant I had 2 claims in the last year and they wouldn't accept the risk. The people at RH were very helpful and pleaded my case but to no avail.

The whole system is completely illogical. If I'd had one bike worth £50,000 stolen they would have had no problem. Imagine if I had a stable of a dozen low-priced machines which all went? I'd probably never get insured again.

I don't know if this is common practice but in my opinion it stinks. I've emailed ERS's CEO with my comments but I don't expect a positive response.

I have managed to get similar cover from the broker I've used in the past - Peter James - but at an annual premium of £325 rather than the less than £100 I'd been paying.
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Chatter / Re: Bikesafe
« Last post by Itsme on April 04, 2024, 06:18:40 AM »
Hi

I agree with you both and will certainly be giving the course a go on April 14th as anything I can learn which will add to my safety has got to be worth the effort. The point about attitude is very relevant and there is a whole module in the Bikesafe pre-course learning about having the right attitude when going for a ride.

I do get why the material is so comprehensive as they are trying to pass on years of accumulated knowledge I just wish I'd done the course 30 years ago.

Ian
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Chatter / Re: Bikesafe
« Last post by iansoady on April 03, 2024, 11:06:43 AM »
I think that one of the reasons the IAM and Bikesafe are sometimes criticised is their apparent rigidity in sticking to the "system". My dad was a senior police officer and as his crew all had to have Class 1 police licences as they hurtled about County Durham in souped up Triumph 2.5pis he decided he should also pass the test. He used to come home shaking after various training sessions which had him overtaking round blind bends and all sirts of what the normal person would consider lunacy - all protected only by flashing blue lights and 2-tones! I have his certificate on my wall.

He taught me to ride and drive and I passed the IAM bike test in Brum in the 1990s, out of the Aston police station Martin mentions. The only adverse comment made was "You could have passed that car on the roundabout entry" - ie make progress at all costs. An approach which I don't think is useful for the normal rider.

The system and Motorcycle Roadcraft were still being used as the basis for all training at that time and by the sound of it still is. I think as well one of the problems is that police officers are rarely trained educators so often don't have the skills needed to pass on the necessary.

In my view, what os far more imprtant than either technical bike handling skills or even the various acronyms used by some training organisations (which I can't even remember) is having the right attitude - something which often seems lacking in many drivers and riders.

There are trainers who are much better in my experience. I did an assessment with a chap called Kevin who runs a company called Survival Skills - https://www.survivalskills.co.uk/about_us.html - and found his approach very helpful.

Sorry the above is a bit random - still suffering post viral fatifue I think.....
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Chatter / Re: Bikesafe
« Last post by xbally on April 03, 2024, 10:11:55 AM »
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Yes I get where you are coming from.
Years ago when I was 40 (now 66) I had a friend who was one of the first motorcycle paramedics and he was even featured on a TV series.
He was a member of Birmingham Advanced Motorcyclists which was run by the bike traffic cops at Aston Police Station.
I was very keen and had an assessment by him and attended several meetings. These were very relaxed and extremely helpful.
Unfortunately despite avidly reading all the literature which I seem to recall included the Roadcraft manual or its equivalent my mate who was to be my instructor got involved in a divorce and left the local area so I never continued with it although I keenly followed any rider improvement  articles that I saw in the media especially in MCN or Ride magazine.
I was at one point thinking of training as a Bloodbiker but understand you need the advanced rider certificate. By this time I too considered I was perhaps a bit too long in the tooth to learn all these new tricks. I think I could cope with the practical side but like Ian in my work I  found it increasingly difficult to retain information passed on via IT and younger folk who may not yet have the life experience to appreciate how your ability to retain an awful lot of information slows with age.
However I would say give the practical a go as it can only help to keep you safer and more knowledgeable on the road.
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Chatter / Bikesafe
« Last post by Itsme on April 03, 2024, 07:43:12 AM »
Hi all.

Anyone out there in Thumperland ever done a Bikesafe course? I was out over the weekend on my bike as usual, but Derbyshire police were doing an education push aimed at motorcyclists and I was asked if I'd like to do a one day Bikesafe course. As my children are convinced that now I'm nearer 70 than 30 I should give up bikes and as I am aware that over the last 50 years of riding I have probably picked up a lot of bad habits I said yes and will be attending on 14th April. Give the kids some reassurance and give me a skill check. I'm not sure I've done the right thing.

Don't get me wrong, I have utmost respect for police riders and know I'm not a speed merchant so the course will no doubt be useful, but the way it's designed is very information overload in my opinion. For a start I bought a copy of Roadcraft which you probably know is the police riding manual, it's half an inch thick and written in tiny writing. Next there are 9 pre-course video modules to be completed, each one with questions to be answered. Whenever something like hazards are discussed on the videos they are accompanied by a write up which attempts to detail absolutely everything about that topic. Having a list of between 15 and 20 things to remember many times over is beyond most people and certainly me.

I've seen this type of learning before when working as a clinical support worker. I had to attend compulsory annual updates for several areas of practice and one year had a new trainer deliver our epilepsy training update, She had clearly just qualified as she used so many terms that had just become common and gave so much detail that I spent 3 days after the course trying to persuade new staff not to leave as they really would be able to learn and cope with the seizure activity of the patients in our care even if they didn't know what postictal meant. We used to just say recovery and that worked well enough!

I'm sure that police riders flying to incidents at speeds I will never reach have to be top notch and I am equally sure I will sharpen up a bit as a result of the course, but at the moment I feel like all the joy has been sucked out of motorcycling because I am supposed to be constantly analysing 700 different things when I am riding down a road.

Ian
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Project Progress / Re: XBR Street Tracker - Moto63 style
« Last post by Moto63 on April 02, 2024, 04:58:19 PM »
About bloody time!

Ian
Yes. I couldn’t agree more Ian, I’ve been itching to get back on with the build Ian, trust me 🤦???
Sadly I won’t be able to post any photos up as my “photo posting” buddy Mathee seems to have deserted the forum and I’m pretty clueless when it comes to techno oligy
Cheers, Michael
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Project Progress / Re: XBR Street Tracker - Moto63 style
« Last post by Itsme on April 02, 2024, 10:45:00 AM »
About bloody time! Seriously, glad you are in a position to continue with this build and good luck getting things moving again.

Ian
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Project Progress / Re: The mighty BSA (BSA-Suzuki-Allsorts) thread
« Last post by iansoady on April 02, 2024, 08:49:51 AM »
Thanks for the well wishes.

I think I will do a full rewire but probably next winter as I'd like to get the bike on the road. But I like the Lucas handlebar switches and would like to continue using them. The Suzuki wiring is fairly minimal other than the connections to the CDI unit.

Oh, I'm told the Yam will be here on Thursday morning!
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Project Progress / Re: The mighty BSA (BSA-Suzuki-Allsorts) thread
« Last post by Ian on April 01, 2024, 04:07:17 PM »
I think I'd be tempted to start from scratch with the wiring using Japanese  switches. I'm sure you have it all in hand though Ian. Good luck and best wishes to your wife for a rapid recovery (only so you can get on with bike related issues 😉😱)
IanR
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