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Title: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on October 07, 2019, 11:16:43 AM
In doors for less than 24 hours and I have already started work. I have shortened the rear mudguard and moved it forward by 4.5cm and repositioned the indicators, thinking of sinking the rear light into the cowl so it is flush and repositioning battery to underneath the swinging arm :)
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on October 09, 2019, 02:13:46 PM
Surely the trophies should be in the background of that shot!?
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on October 09, 2019, 04:59:38 PM
Matt, the bikes indoors. As. IN THE HOUSE....What more does a man need. 😁🤣🤘
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on October 09, 2019, 06:38:39 PM
No Trophies this year but went to some great bike meets, Still not cold enough to turn on the workshop central heating, but I can hear the kettle boiling so I had better finish this post :)
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on October 12, 2019, 11:34:34 AM
I thought I would strip the paint off the oil tank, it should look nice polished
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on October 12, 2019, 10:00:01 PM
I look forward to seeing the effect on the bike as a whole  8) :P
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on October 25, 2019, 10:23:10 AM
I have a new battery for the bike, very small
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on October 25, 2019, 11:02:56 AM
Wow! That little battery can crank your special?!
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on October 25, 2019, 11:19:11 AM
That's a very good question Matt, please Joolz more details. That thing certainly is tiny, I've got a li on battery for mine but defo not that small. I assume you're still running an electric starter on your bike? Or is it now kick only?  .. cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on October 25, 2019, 11:22:20 AM
The only way to crank my bike over involves my leg :) The battery is a 0.8 Ah lead acid gel, its only there to provide power at idle to stop the lights dimming
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on October 25, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
Aahhh... yes that explains it. It's very similar to the one I had on the now demised 😢😢 cafe racer as that too was kick only. Still a very neat little unit tho Joolz 👍... cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on October 25, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Ok, thanks. I thought yours was a high compression engine? Still kickable though? Any idea how small the battery can go to retain the electric start on a standard XBR?
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on October 25, 2019, 01:44:32 PM
If you bear with me Matt I'll tell you once I get home and measure mine 😁😁👍
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on October 25, 2019, 02:33:31 PM
Afternoon Matt, having just landed home I've measured the shorai lithium ion battery I've bought for the tracker, which still has an electric boot. The sizes are: length 145mm, width 86mm height 86mm
Not the cheapest thing I've ever purchased but very light in weight and can be placed in any position.
Hope this helps. You just know you NEED one on that special of yours 👍🤘😉... cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on October 25, 2019, 08:37:26 PM
Thanks, Michael. I'll add it to the wish list, but keep the cardboard on ice until I've finished whittling everything else down, starting with the loom - the rear brake light sensor is going and it's place being taken by the starter solenoid. I need the reg/rect connector moved back a bit as I think it's resonating against the CB200's much narrower tunnel. I wouldn't mind copying the speedo setup from that SR400 bobber you put up, ie, mounted on the side of the fork.
Lots of ideas bobbing  ::) around in my head, but no cohesive picture of what I want to end up with... hmmm, newbies, eh?!
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on October 25, 2019, 10:42:16 PM
Just for future reference, have you got the Amp Hours and Cold Cranking Amp values for that battery? Cheers. Also, did you have to buy a lithium compatible reg/rect?
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on November 08, 2019, 03:32:16 PM
I have made some new side panels, do you like the decals, I thought it was a good play on the original XBR500 ones :)
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on November 08, 2019, 04:39:30 PM
Yeah nice touch 👍
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on November 08, 2019, 09:38:47 PM
Sweet! Any chance of a full profile pic?  8)  Are they steel or ali? What guage? I do like the XB600R name change  ;D
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on November 09, 2019, 10:56:06 AM
Here is a pic minus the tank (Suzanne does have some limits on what I can bring indoors. Wood fires and half tanks of petrol are a bit dodgy.) The side panels are made from perspex sheet 3mm thick, its a bit of a pain to work with as it shatters easily, but my old side panels lasted 3-4 years so it lasts ok on the bike. The XB600R stands for eXperemental Blown Racer :)
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on November 09, 2019, 01:21:19 PM
Yeah I like the X perimental B lown R acrer bit Joolz... 😉
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on November 09, 2019, 10:06:40 PM
Tell that Suzanne to stop teasing us and allow a shot with the tank on - when the fire's not lit...pretty please ???!!! ;D
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on November 10, 2019, 01:19:57 PM
Here is a pic from the summer, I hope it satisfies your craving to see the tank on, not much difference now except the shorter back end and longer side panels
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on November 11, 2019, 10:17:17 AM
Great, thanks Joolz! What will be keeping you busy in 2020, then?
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on November 11, 2019, 10:47:31 AM
Im a bit stuck there, I have a few of the long titanium engine bolts to get and some alloy banjo bolts and brake bleeders, but after that  I really cant see anything more I can do with the bike. I imagine that project will be at the end and I cant afford another bike to start a new project
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on November 12, 2019, 10:15:38 AM
Sounds like the fettling withdrawal symptoms will be upon you :( Nurse!  ;D
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: CrazyFrog on November 12, 2019, 10:59:08 AM
Im a bit stuck there, I have a few of the long titanium engine bolts to get and some alloy banjo bolts and brake bleeders, but after that  I really cant see anything more I can do with the bike. I imagine that project will be at the end and I cant afford another bike to start a new project

There's only one answer Joolz - you'll have to sell the bike to me for £100 to raise money for your next project.  :o 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on November 12, 2019, 07:47:26 PM
Im a bit stuck there, I have a few of the long titanium engine bolts to get and some alloy banjo bolts and brake bleeders, but after that  I really cant see anything more I can do with the bike. I imagine that project will be at the end and I cant afford another bike to start a new project

There's only one answer Joolz - you'll have to sell the bike to me for £100 to raise money for your next project.  :o 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Haha :) in your dreams :)
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on November 12, 2019, 07:52:49 PM
I have aleady had a few thoughts, alloy bottom yoke, alloy swinging arm and titanium swinging arm bolts and wheel spindles. Now all I have to do is find out what bike has a suitable yoke and swinging arm that will fit !
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on November 13, 2019, 12:30:54 PM
That should keep you busy - I'd be interested to hear the results  8)
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on November 13, 2019, 05:20:09 PM
Well as it happens chaps I may possibly be able to be if some assistance. I'm in discussion with the bloke who's made my yokes to see how much he will do some cnc yokes to suit the standard XBR forks and ignition barrel etc.... if I got ten pairs made the cost would come down but I then have to be able to sell ten pairs on to at least make my outlay back. I'll keep you posted on developments... cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on November 13, 2019, 07:53:40 PM
I'm very interested! Best guess on price...? Ballpark?
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on November 13, 2019, 09:24:15 PM
Honestly not sure yet Matt, I initially asked him if he would be interested in making some solid copy top yokes to suit the XBR. I'd figured that there seems to be a few folk (like your good self I believe ?) who wanted to bolt risers and renthal style bars on but probably not that advisable with the standard relieved cast yoke. So with a cnc solid copy drill and bolt on a set of risers no problem, I then started thinking why not go the whole 9 yards and get a full set made up. At this moment in time I've left it with him to ponder wether he's up for the job/work and to come up with a costing to produce 10 items including top and bottom yokes complete with new stem. Approximately what kind of money would you want to be paying for a complete set of cnc ally yokes. This would give me an idea as to wether or not to go ahead with getting ten made if I thought I would at least make my money back and not be seriously out if pocket. Cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on November 14, 2019, 08:42:37 PM
Yikes! I just looked at prices online for a full set. I'd never get it passed for payment by swimbo accounting ltd!!!
A top slab maybe and yes, my bike came with risers bolted through the top - no issues to report thus far, touch bonce....  ;D

Oh, look - we've hijacked Joolz's thread - apologies!
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on November 14, 2019, 09:26:31 PM
Yes sorry Joolz... if/when I have anything to report on XBR cnc'd yokes I'll post it under a different title. Cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on November 15, 2019, 01:56:01 PM
No problem, I have been following your post on cnc machined yokes, nice idea but would put me well over my monthly £40 budget :(
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on January 17, 2020, 03:42:27 PM
Just sent my fork sliders off for rechroming, £150 the pair, no pitting or anything like that, I have just worn the chrome through age. It scraped through the last MOT but I was advised they probably wont pass again. 2-3 weeks before they come back to me, have new seals and dust caps waiting to go on. I wont be able to do any more jobs on it this winter as it has skinted me, but it will be ready to ride again come spring :)
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on April 24, 2020, 01:50:39 PM
Covid19 test ride with all the latest mods, Turn up the volume, the new exhaust sounds great. Its a pity this might be all for this year   
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Moto63 on April 24, 2020, 05:27:06 PM
Looking and sounding good Joolz, as you say pity it might be the only run you get this year,  fingers crossed we can all get back in the saddle pretty soon ... cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: mthee on April 24, 2020, 10:12:14 PM
Thanks for the video. Always good to see a bike in motion. I agree about the exhaust note - luverly. Does the supercharger add anything here, or just contribute the whine?
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: CrazyFrog on April 25, 2020, 07:48:17 AM
Brilliant, love it!
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: JOOLZ on April 25, 2020, 10:27:30 AM
Pleased you all like it :) The supercharger adds a hell of a lot to the exhaust noise, thats why its been so difficult to get it under control, if you restrict the noise then you restrict the breathing, I had to find a way of keeping the exhaust free flowing while keeping the Db down, it cant really be done, but the ear is not so sensitive to lower tones so I just concentrated on removing all the trebble and mid range. I think I have gone through 3 or 4 silencers trying to find something acceptable, Im not so keen on the modern style but it sounds perfect
Title: Re: Its that time of year again
Post by: Oldtimer on April 25, 2020, 11:16:35 AM
Sounds great. Pleased all your effort has come to fruition. Safe riding. 8)