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Technical => Bike Problems/Questions => Topic started by: manxie on June 23, 2016, 08:08:47 AM

Title: XBR petrol tap OUCH!!!!!!
Post by: manxie on June 23, 2016, 08:08:47 AM
Hi fellas. I got the GB out of the garage today as the lecky board fellas want in to do a bit of work on my meter. I fired the bike up to move it and noticed the petrol tap was leaking from around the lever bit which you turn. Is there an easy fix? There is a flange (easy now Michael  ;) ) on it, where "on & Off" is written which I thought I could just nip up. When I put my glasses on it appears to be riveted on, not screwed. The bike is in for it`s test in a week, which it will fail because of the leak (maybe the headlight too) Please tell me there`s an easy quick fix that`s not going to cost a fortune  ::) Cheers, Steve.  ;)
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: Moto63 on June 23, 2016, 08:19:50 AM
Ooo eerr......ya can't beat a rite good flange now can ya :P :P :P
Sorry but can't help you out on this one Steve, I've been lucky (kiss of death statement coming up) as non of my taps av given me any trouble.......SO FAR
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: manxie on June 23, 2016, 08:23:13 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: SteveC#222 on June 23, 2016, 08:51:53 AM
Mine sometime leaks a drip as you turn it from closed to open but never otherwise.

NRP do a repair kit but mine isn't bad enough to warrent buying one yet.

http://www.nrp-carbs.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=42&product_id=2915 (http://www.nrp-carbs.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=42&product_id=2915)
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: Moto63 on June 23, 2016, 08:54:36 AM
Ooo eerr....flanges, leaks n drips....things don't sound to good for the Steve's ;) ;)
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: manxie on June 23, 2016, 09:46:18 AM
Don`t know.....doesn`t sound too bad  ;D

Thanks SteveC, mine`s only leaking when you touch it ie turn or wiggle, I wonder if it would be alright for test? Trouble is, the flange with "on/off" on it is riveted in place, how would I get new seals in behind it?  :-\ Thanks.
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: SteveC#222 on June 23, 2016, 11:21:29 AM
Don`t know.....doesn`t sound too bad  ;D

Thanks SteveC, mine`s only leaking when you touch it ie turn or wiggle, I wonder if it would be alright for test? Trouble is, the flange with "on/off" on it is riveted in place, how would I get new seals in behind it?  :-\ Thanks.

According to the kit blurb

"Internal Viton seals for the sealed [rivetted] tap. Requires drilling and tapping a thread in the place of the rivets. All seals and screws for re-assembly supplied. Intstructions sent with order"

As long as it isn't leaking when it's switched on I would have thought it would be OK.
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: timbo on June 23, 2016, 12:07:32 PM
Yes Steve, NRP do a kit, and you drill out the rivets, and tap threads. Never done one, but sounds simple enough.
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: manxie on June 23, 2016, 12:34:39 PM
Nice one, cheers fella`s. I may leave it and take a chance because it is ok until it`s turned....I leave them on all the time anyway  :-\
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: SteveC#222 on June 23, 2016, 12:48:28 PM
If it isn't leaking once it's turned on then leave it on when you turn up for the MOT and chances are they won't even touch it!
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: manxie on June 23, 2016, 01:02:15 PM
I think that`s the way to go!! Thanks for your input fella`s  ;)
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap
Post by: manxie on June 29, 2016, 04:46:24 PM
Ouch and double Ouch!!!!!

I decided to buy a new tap for the GB which is the close on £100 ....... Ouch!  Went to CMSNL to order it, went through the processes, (add to basket, checkout etc) and it said they couldn`t process the order. Checked my purchase history with them and sure enough the order had been declined.

I went back on the internet and found the part in the US, so bought it $98 plus postage plus import duty.

Received an email with a tracking number, so clicked on it to see where it was ....... bloody Holland!! ...... Received another email with tracking number, so clicked on it to see where it was ...... bloody Georgia!! .......

After declining my purchase CMSNL have decided to process it so I`ve bought TWO BLOODY TAPS!!!!!! at over £200 ..... double Ouch  >:(  >:(  :o

The CMSNL one arrived today, so what do I do?? Send it back?? Keep it as a spare?? Try and flog it at a slightly discounted price??  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

Anyone want to buy a GB500 fuel tap  ???
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap OUCH!!!!!!
Post by: onthecheap on June 29, 2016, 05:44:02 PM
Send em both back. Try the old dodge of sealing a petrol tap/pipe/banjo/union leak - carbolic soap - got me out of a fix before.
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap OUCH!!!!!!
Post by: SteveC#222 on June 29, 2016, 06:30:57 PM
Tell CMSNL what has happened - it is their system that has caused the problem and you should be able to return it for  a refund.

....You're not having a lot of luck with this GB!!
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap OUCH!!!!!!
Post by: manxie on June 29, 2016, 06:46:15 PM
Teething problem Steve...I hope  :-\ I am more than happy with it, it`s a lovely little thing but got the dreaded Manx test on Friday which is a lot worse and more strict than a UK mot  :o
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap OUCH!!!!!!
Post by: Moto63 on June 29, 2016, 08:28:22 PM
Eh up Steve, you should av poured some fernox central heating leak sealer in the tank, that'd av cured it ;) ;) ;).....£200 would av probably bought you about a two year supply of the stuff :) :)on the up side, Least you know you've got a nice shiny new tap tho mate, one that hopefully won't drip fuel onto the rest of the bike.
Cheers, Michael
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap OUCH!!!!!!
Post by: manxie on June 29, 2016, 09:00:38 PM
 ;D ;D haha, hi Michael, I never thought of fernox, it fixed the leak on my "buried in wall" pipework to my towel rail !!!!

I wanted to keep the bike as original as possible, I have used "repair kits" on other fuel taps in the past but didn`t have a lot of luck with them? so I thought a new tap would be the way to go ...... wasn`t banking on over 200 quid though, usually I`d expect a bike attached to the bloody tap for that price!!  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap OUCH!!!!!!
Post by: mthee on July 10, 2016, 11:57:27 AM
got the dreaded Manx test on Friday which is a lot worse and more strict than a UK mot  :o

What's the story here, Steve? I'd be interested to know the how's and why's if you have the time? Great to hear she passed BTW!
Title: Re: XBR petrol tap OUCH!!!!!!
Post by: manxie on July 10, 2016, 03:04:22 PM
got the dreaded Manx test on Friday which is a lot worse and more strict than a UK mot  :o

What's the story here, Steve? I'd be interested to know the how's and why's if you have the time? Great to hear she passed BTW!

Matt, I can`t really answer this one  ??? But it is not un-common for a vehicle to come to the island with a full MOT and fail our test  ??? ??? Once they`re tested, that`s it though...no more testing, EG. so maybe something that would pass a test in the UK with a worn disc or something, would pass but maybe fail its next test?? don`t know??

They were great with me though  ;D