Thumper Club Forum
Club House => Chatter => Topic started by: guest18 on March 09, 2007, 04:44:38 PM
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Anyone else have a problem with self control when it comes to finance & bikes etc :/
I've been idly glancing at Ebay and an MT500 has come up within tripping distance of me.. and I like them.. and I can't afford it.. but I could lay hands on the cash (yet more credit).. I shouldn't......
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This is stupid and I know it.... but I'm tempted anyway! :o
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Go On ! You know you want one !!
Jethro
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That's the problem not the solution lol :o
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Mind you... I *could* just go for a look, you know, see what it's like. Probably pretty rubbish, and then I wouldn't be tempted to bid for it..... maybe....
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I know the feeling,that's how I ended up with the XT.Although hopefully the man who pressed 'buy it now' for my XJ will turn up tomorrow and at least I will get some room in my garage.
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Aye Smudge,
I'll no go against you! Enough grief in the workshop without acquiring something else.
Must apply myself so that I can reduce the current 'stock' in the first place.
Regards, Bill
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what about "club bikes" if something comes up at ebay or otherwise thats rare or worth to get , then everybody puts in a certain amount of money and in return gets the right to use it
so nobody gets into huge depts and can have the joy to ride a bike he would love to ride
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Nice idea - club bikes - but do not let me look after them - I will just add to the pile of boxes in the shed...
R
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Yup, nice idea but the admin would be a nightmare, not to mention the politics! We are such a widely spread club geographically that it would always be unfair to someone, plus who has time to look after *another* bike? I reckon most club members have too many vehicles/projects already :o
However if anyone would like to buy a club Manx then please do and I'll happily wash it at the rally in return for a blast on the rideout ;)
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true was a nice idea but i can see the point ..so we stick to our own depts ...aeh i meant bikes and projects :-)))
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However if anyone would like to buy a club Manx then please do and I'll happily wash it at the rally in return for a blast on the rideout ;)
Oi - cats, even those with no tail - generally do not like being washed, let alone blasted on rideouts..
R
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However if anyone would like to buy a club Manx then please do and I'll happily wash it at the rally in return for a blast on the rideout ;)
Oi - cats, even those with no tail - generally do not like being washed, let alone blasted on rideouts..
R
I thought he meant a wash'n'drive-by (shooting that is!). Is that how they lost their tails in the first place?
BB
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From what I read rumor has it that two manx cats where late for the Ark and had their tails chopped of as Noah shut the door.
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Nah Noah was into vivisection for vivisections sake
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mmmmm well, as far as her indoors is concerned....I'm already looking after a couple of 'club' bikes!!!
And.....why did noah bother to take all them fish on board with him???
Go on!!...............take a peek at the bike, it's alovely day for a ride, just to convince yourself it really is a nail!!
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Have you seen it yet?? is it as good as you can afford, or better...... shiney innit, if you listen to the crank as you rotate the starter , you will hear ever so daintily SUCK buyme SQUEEZE byme now BANG sweetinnit BLOW oooh oohhh I can satisfy your whims SUCK... etc etc
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I used to have no self control. I still don't, but as such decisions are now out of my hands (engaged) it doesn't really matter.
The club bike thing is actually a good idea, people are making money out this with classic and fast cars. You pay to join the club (actually a business) and they rent the car on a points system. You get to drive that Ferrari but someone else fixes it when it goes bang, you can switch to an Aston when you have the kids with you, run a Golf GTI for weekdays etc. The points thing manages the availability. You get say 100 for the year when you join, the blower Bentley/Ferrari Dino etc. costs 15 points a day, or you can have a Porsche 911 for 2 points and so on. The only problem I see is that demand for our bikes isn't quite going to match these flash cars (no offence). Now I'll bet someone will put together such a fleet with Manx Nortons, Brough Superiors, Honda Blackbird, KTM's, BMW GS's, Harleys etc. for all those city types who only get out on their plastic rockets twice a year. As a start up business however the insurance would be a nightmare. I think the car people insist on a training day when you sign up which might help.
Andy
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I have next to zero self-control when it comes to buying bikes (see mails passim for GB sidecar saga).
However, I think it's a good thing to just go for what you want. What's bad is to jump after what you see (and didn't know you wanted). In this case you wanted an MT500, one came up for sale, SO BUY IT! :)
I'm not helping am I
GC
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Nope! lol, but I have now committed to NOT buying it. I have however got my eye on a V8 and adaptor plate going at a very reasonable price from a friend of a friend....
I'm also looking with dangerous interest at a bit of kit called a KISS Rebreather... ;)
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KISS rebreather - we toyed one time with fitting a (is it?) a frenzy into the spray deck for a canoe so you could look at bigger - more scary water and reduce the drowning option - no idea if it would have worked an not a good idea to test it in a real situation. Still we did have "John the Human Probe" instead
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ah i forgot the insurance problem in the uk ..sorry i`m german and still not used to these weired insurance policys in the uk
funny story had a monkeybike here (tpo £130) and wanted to ad a gs400e on the policy should have cost me together £560 tpo(no no claim bonus ) the broker said i should change them the other way round it would be cheaper , so i did
quit the insurance and injured the gs400e and added the monkeybike on this policy then this way round i had to pay only £180 for the two bikes together fully comp so this way round i became better rider :-)))
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Probably a "Fenzy", and early type of buoyancy compensator which you could (at a push and if you were desperate) breathe from.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buoyancy_compensator
Really I have to add the caveat here that unless anyone is an *expert* in human physiology, gas laws and breathing system engineering then you shouldn't even think about trying to breathe from a rebreather without taking a course.
As the Jetstream (Mfr of the KISS rebreathers) website points out, it's easier and quicker to kill yourself with a rebreather than with a plastic bag... joking aside they *really* need to be treated with respect...
Having said that, I still fancy one ;)
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I know nothing - as Manuel used to say.. A rebreather - does that have a carbsorb cannister or the like? Being as breathing is regulated by the CO2 not the O2 - look at it as breathing is a process for stripping the CO2 from your system, the gathering of O2 is just a byproduct. Just wondered because at uni we did the breathing into a chamber both with and without carbsorb, without you soon start to feel distressed because of the CO2 build up in the exhaled gas - and thus due to diffusion in your blood too. Panic and a feeling of suffocation long before the O2 runs out. Bung in the carbsorb and you sit there happily breathing away untill you black out due to lack of O2 - the CO2 is removed - no pressure to breath more - it was real weird looking at the chamber drop - indicating that the O2 was going but not feel any side effects.
Hence the easier to kill yourself than with a plastic bag I guess - the plastic bag causes the CO2 concentration to rise and thus PANIC!!!!!
R
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a rebreather absorbs CO2 with chemical stuff but has an O2 cylinder as well. If you get below 33ft with this rig you die from O2 poisoning.
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ahhh but GB500NZ you oversimplify, and you are talking about a pure Oxygen rebreather like they used to use in WW2 (and some forces still use :o)
Yes Roger, you're basically bang on, although there are a variety of ways to spoil your day with one... all rebreathers I am aware of use a chemical scrubber (soda lime, sofnolime, dragersorb etc can't remember the proper chemical name) to "scrub" CO2 out of the breathing gas, the gas you breather is then recorculated round the loop and Oxygen added by a variety of means dependent on the rebreather.
Roughly speaking there are three main types of rebreather,
O2 rebreather, where neat oxygen is added, probably in a random or unmetered quantity, to make up for the Oxygen used by your metabolism. This means that at times it is possible to find yourself breathing neat O2. They are therefore limited by the fact that beyond a certain depth (dunno what 33ft is in metres but it sounds roughly right, 9mish ish from memory) the increased ambient pressure means that the Partial pressure of the oxygen will increase beyond 1.4 or 1.6 Bar (depending which group taught you). This in turn presents a significant risk of something called an "O2 hit", or properly, "Central Nervous System Toxicity" where the O2 becomes basically poisinous to your system and you will convulse, blackout, and become tonic in a relatively random sequence. Obviously underwater and needing a regulator held in your mouth to provide breathing gas this will commonly result in death :(
Above 9m they are ok, which is fine for checking your battleship for limpet mines (or attaching the same) but not a lot of use for "sports" diving.
The next sort is a "Semi closed circuit rebreather" which also uses a scrubber but the Oxygen is replace because a small sonic orifice allows a metered amount of Nitrox (Air with less nitrogen and extra Oxygen in simple terms) to be added to the breathing loop constantly. Approximately every four breaths the loop vents overpressure and all is right with the world ;)
They are normally good to forty metres (130 feet) but any diving which needs decompression stops is normally prohibited which limits them severely. Nice simple mechanical system though.
The last type is CCR, or closed circuit rebreather. Complicated and clever and good for as deep as you dare in the right configuration and with the right gases plumbed in. Proper exotica and I don't have time to describe one as I need to go and put tea on!! But I'll continue later if anyone is still awake.....
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Ahh so scuba's are one of the few groups who are not astounded to find that oxygen is actually a really nasty toxic gas and that we probably started aerobic metabolism to clear the oxygen out of the system - not to allow more effective energy release.
Cannot remember what carbsorb is - probably Ca(OH)2 - or the like, usew similar for scrubbing bio gas from fermenters - to remove the CO2 and leave CH4
R