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Technical => Bike Problems/Questions => Topic started by: xbally on August 07, 2023, 09:38:05 AM
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Does anyone know of an effective and cheap thinners for Hammerite paint please?
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I seem to remember that acetone AKA nail varnish remover works. Carb cleaner is very effective on lots of things. I am fairly sure that cellolose thinners won't touch it.
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Thanks Ian. That's what my supplier of cellulose thinners suggested. The wife has lent me her nail varnish remover so I'll give it a go
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White spirit used to work, but they changed the formula of the paint a few years ago and I don't know if it works on the new stuff.
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Yes they seem to have made the paint more eco-friendly but my thinners now can't cope.
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Acetone by the gallon is cheaper than buying nail polish remover in bottles!!
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Any idea where I could buy Acetone from please?
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Any idea where I could buy Acetone from please?
Bought mine from Ebay
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Thanks. Yes I thought of looking there and there's quite a selectin. I'll order some up.
On a similar theme does anyone recommend any other brushing paint for motor cycle restoration?
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Pareagon coach enamel. Thins with white spirit, goes on thick and brush marks disappear. You can get it in brushing and spray - I did the unlamented Francis Barnett with it from bare metal. I use cheap toolstation primer which goes on well and doesn't seem to react with any paint I've put on top. https://www.stationaryengineparts.com/Paragon-Paint-Products/
For the XBR500 I needed to match the colour so took a panel to a place in Bromsgrove who did a great job making up aerosols and were very helpful. Their web site seems to have disappeared so I hope they're still around.
(http://www.iansoady.org.uk/FB/images/rebuilt/IMG_6538.jpg)
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Thanks Ian, that's really helpful.
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if it's the original 'Hammerite' i.e. pre 1985, then i think you have to bite the bullet and use hammerite thinners/cleaner. once AkzoNobel took them over, the formula was changed (health & safety ... fumes etc) and post 85 hammerite will clean off ok with a proprietary brush cleaner (least, that's what i always use.) i'm not that impressed with hammerite these days, and have found several makes of bare metal paint which seem to work better.
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Yes I don't think it's as good as it used to be. I'm researching Ian's alternatives.
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I've used cellulose thinners successfully and I think xylene works although I might be wrong. I didn't try acetone but use it quite a lot for all sorts of applications and get it from Amazon although I'm not sure if they are cheapest but wanted high purity. Hers the link
Acetone 5 Litre Acrylic Nail Remover Premium UV/LED Gel Nail Polish Remover 5L https://amzn.eu/d/heFW2H3 (http://Acetone 5 Litre Acrylic Nail Remover Premium UV/LED Gel Nail Polish Remover 5L https://amzn.eu/d/heFW2H3)
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I recently cut some surplus brackets off the tank of my GW250 Inazuma for the project which isn't a project and then ground down the stubs, filled the area and sprayed it with Halfords primer. The next day the areas I had ground and which were bare metal had rusted through the primer. Spray on primer is rubbish as it is water based which reacts with bare metal obviously.
I know this isn't directly relevant to this thread, but it does show how the re-formulation of paint can be a tricky business.
Ian
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The primer I've been using for years is Pro-Cote grey industrial primer from Toolstation. It goes on nice & thick, covers all sorts of previous paint and seems unaffected by whatever I put over it. Unfortunately they seem to have stopped stocking it as I found outyesterday having just used the last of a tin I had. But still available from ebay if a bit more expensive.
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I ordered some primer from Toolstation and it came in a 1 litre tin. I have yet to try it and have still got to order the paint from Stationary Engine Parts as I managed to track down a donor bike for my project which has provided a powder coated frame V5 and a fully body kit and petrol tank (see later) which will save me a load of hassle (hopefully ) and expense. I also got a useable pair of forks, spare wheels and quite a few other bits. This all started when I put the original project bike's petrol tank in the sun at the bottom of my drive to help evaporate the old petrol . I then went to meet up with an old work colleague for a ride on our bikes. Unknown to me, my wife was going out but had left something for the tatters on the pavement. When I got back from the ride I wondered where the petrol tank had gone. I can only assume the tatters took it complete with the key which was in the open cap and the vacuum fuel tap which made emptying out the tank difficult.
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Oh no. Now that is a tale of woe Martin. Hopefully with a happy ending. Because let’s face it everyone loves a happy ending 🤞👍
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They can be a bit enthusiastic! I'm always careful about not leaving stuff out although when you want someone to take it away it usually stays for days......
Oh, by the way the toolstation primer I use is their aerosol. I've managed to track some down on ebay.
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Yes ..hopefully the "loss" of the original fuel tank will hopefully help me in the long run.....The bodywork on the first bike had been re-sprayed yellow-a very none standard colour for this bike (a Kawasaki GPZ500S- I had one in the 90's.)It would have cost me many £s to have it all resprayed and on top would have been the cost of powder coating the frame and swing arm. The donor bike's body kit with the petrol tank is in standard blue which is great.
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Cracking bikes Martin. Big bro had one for a few years, when I had the XBR cafe racer. We did a lot of (s)miles on them fair steeds. Best of luck with it 👍
Cheers, Michael
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Thanks Michael. Should keep me quiet over the coming months..............