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Title: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: mthee on April 01, 2022, 07:15:38 PM
Struck me as somewhat surreal. V10's need routine maintenance too, I spose 🤯😁 I'll never complain about fuel economy or putting my bike on centre stand again. Check the sound at start-up😋
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Moto63 on April 01, 2022, 07:37:28 PM
Brilliant, loved watching that Matt. How can anyone not like that bloke. Mad as a box o frogs, but in a great way😁. The bloke is an absolute genius. Pity there’s not a couple more like him. Thanks for posting 👍
Cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Itsme on April 01, 2022, 07:52:39 PM
Hi Michael

'How can anyone not like that bloke?' Oooo I love a challenge. How about the fact that although he is a gifted engineer with some lovely bikes he is also most certainly a liar. I have talked to mates who are engineers and even our own Steve D about his claims to do things using basic tools and the verdict is categorically not. He simply cannot do the things he claims in the way he claims to do them. He might be able to do them anyway using a well equipped machine shop, but definitely not in a garage using just hand tools. Did you see the aluminium fairing he claimed to make with no prior experience using just a bossing hammer? Even with an English wheel he would have been hard pushed to produce such perfect curves with no prior experience.

Not to mention the irritating way he bangs on about his bloody wife's baking in his videos. Hell fire if I wanted cooking I would watch Paul Holywood videos.

Sorry Michael I think he's a twat, albeit a talented, but lying twat.

Spartacian
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Moto63 on April 01, 2022, 08:17:42 PM


Not to mention the irritating way he bangs on about his bloody wife's baking in his videos. Hell fire if I wanted cooking I would watch Paul Holywood videos.

Sorry Michael I think he's a twat, albeit a talented, but lying twat.

Spartacian
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.. loved reading that.  Although I’m more a Mary Berry fan myself 😉. How can anyone not like spartacian, 😉👍
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: mthee on April 01, 2022, 11:30:52 PM
I think we may need a new section, "Rantacians"?!😁👍Quality!
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Itsme on April 02, 2022, 07:24:10 AM
Aaawwwww you guys. You made me blush!

Spartacian
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: xbally on April 02, 2022, 08:08:10 AM
Well I loved watching that. Looks to be something of a handful at any speed! Car fans always seem to rave about those split rim wheels he's fitted although being somewhat technically illiterate I'm not sure why. To make a comparison between Allen and me I'm just thrilled to have been able to have fixed the slipping clutch on my KZ440.I agree that the guy's a genius and felt the little feature on Tracey and the wildlife added a good none biking element. Where baking-and not biking is concerned-I'm a bit of a Nigella and Delia fan. My wife is promising me a Nigella Malteser cake today if I'm good! By the way check out the Toya and Robert Fripp videos if you like a good send up.
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Ian on April 02, 2022, 09:33:58 AM
A V10 running a split link chain??? Whoooooaaa. I don't mind my 33bhp 400cc single but that looks a bit iffy, IMHO
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: xbally on April 02, 2022, 09:37:18 AM
A V10 running a split link chain??? Whoooooaaa. I don't mind my 33bhp 400cc single but that looks a bit iffy, IMHO
Yes I saw that and meant to comment but forgot!
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Moto63 on April 02, 2022, 10:21:51 AM
.I agree that the guy's a genius and felt the little feature on Tracey and the wildlife added a good none biking element. Where baking-and not biking is concerned-I'm a bit of a Nigella and Delia fan. My wife is promising me a Nigella Malteser cake today if I'm good! By the way check out the Toya and Robert Fripp videos if you like a good send up.


Yes I’ve watched a few of the Toyah vids, she, like Millyard is as mad as a box of frogs.
Regarding the split link chain on the V10 bike, maybe like spartacian says. He’s a lying beggar. Well spartacian didn’t actually call him a lying beggar but hey you catch mi drift 🤣😉
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: mthee on April 02, 2022, 01:01:24 PM
Did you see the aluminium fairing he claimed to make with no prior experience using just a bossing hammer? Even with an English wheel he would have been hard pushed to produce such perfect curves with no prior experience.
Spartacian

M'Lud, Spartacian. With your indulgence, the defence would humbly request you draw your attention to exhibit (a), the YouTube video in which Mr. Millyard demonstrates the way he crafted said fairing, albeit using a scaled version. You will see that it is his assertion that this is the way the fairings were made by Honda in the 1960's, for which photographic evidence is also supplied. Thank you, M'Lud.


Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Moto63 on April 02, 2022, 02:04:40 PM
Well what can one say, the proof it certainly would appear is in the pudding (see what I did there, tracy’s Baking etc😉) well Mr spartacian it would appear that you owe Mr millyard an apology as it really does look like he bashed said fairing out with nowt but his hammers n a block o wood 🤦??? Eh would you credit it... I have one of them there bossing hammers in my tool box. It’s what we plumb bobs use for lead dressing (or used to do.. when I were a lad n all that😉) think I’ll have to be having a go at making something out of ally sheet.
Oh and just to put things in a bit more perspective, I remember reading a few years ago that certain Honda engineers were given a piece of square steel bar and had to file it round in to a dowel. By hand. That in itself is no mean feat but they had to do a full 6 inch length to within something ridiculous like 2 microns. If the micrometer showed otherwise then they didn’t get in. Unbelievable.
Ps.. really enjoyed watching the vid again Matt. Thanks for posting
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: iansoady on April 02, 2022, 02:40:39 PM
When I was a technical apprentice with the CEGB I spent a few months learning hacksawing, filing etc. We had to reduce (from memory) a 2" cube of mild steel  to a 1" cube using cold chisels, saws and files - all faces to be at 90 degrees and flat to within a couple of thou. My effort was pathetic compared to some of the lads' work. I did ask why we couldn't use the shaping machines and millers dotted about the place but got a very rude answer.

With regard to Allan Millyard, I think his first efforts were indeed done with pretty basic hand tools but I believe his home workshop is now better equipped. He does do some fantastic stuff regardless. He has a column in one of the comics which I download from my library.
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: CrazyFrog on April 02, 2022, 05:32:52 PM
A V10 running a split link chain??? Whoooooaaa. I don't mind my 33bhp 400cc single but that looks a bit iffy, IMHO

Apparently loads of drag racers run split link chains as it allows them to change gearing ratios very easily. If it's good enough for them, it's certainly good enough for me, but then I've never had anything with more than 50bhp anyway!
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: CrazyFrog on April 02, 2022, 05:35:37 PM
I thought the speedo was broken initially, but then I realised I was looking at the tacho which was barely moving! Love the noise - sounds like the lovechild of a Merlin and an American muscle car. I have no opinion of the man himself, other than that he is clearly very talented, however he does it!
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Moto63 on April 02, 2022, 05:50:29 PM
I thought the speedo was broken initially, but then I realised I was looking at the tacho which was barely moving! Love the noise - I have no opinion of the man himself, other than that he is clearly very talented, however he does it!
Yes, I also did that with the tacho Pete. I then thought holy shamolee the thing is barely moving 🤣
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Itsme on April 03, 2022, 07:51:04 AM
I am nothing if not stubborn so I respectfully refute the assertion that any man can craft such loveliness without years of experience. When I was an apprentice painter and decorator we spent ages just rubbing stuff down, never mind moving on to picking up an actual paint brush so to believe this man's lies is too much for me. The day I can take him a flat sheet of aluminium and stand and watch him is the day I might recant my accusations.

Blimey I went all Spanish Inquisition for a minute. Let me just be clear, Allen Millyard has skills beyond me even if I spent the next 100 years practising those skills so why lie and big himself up? I know what I am good at and feel no need whatsoever to pretend to be good at things I'm not. I always feel much happier around the humble than the vain. Oh blimey Torquemada has come out to play again!

Spartacian
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Moto63 on April 03, 2022, 09:59:29 AM
Don’t be to harsh on yourself spartacian, yes clearly his videos are “edited” so miss out HUUUGE portions of the work. It’s that bit that I too am a tad sceptical about. Does he then disappear down to his local fab shop and for instance get all those sheets he’s bashed into submission to form the petroleum tank and get them all welded up professionally?.. Who knows🤷???. I’m definitely NOT taking anything away from the bloke as like you say he’s clearly naturally gifted. Plus don’t forget, he’s now buddies with, love or loathe him. Henry Cole. Who obviously knows exactly how to go about making things look simple once they’re put onto celluloid. Again to put things into just a little more perspective, when I used to be doing a lot of wetrooms as my main source of living. I honestly had two different people say to me... “it’ll take three weeks !!!.... they do it in 24hrs on the TV” 🤦???🤦???
The world sadly is full of “Sheople” ....”computer/TV says” full of em I tell ya, they couldn’t make an informed decision if their life depended on it.
Cheers, Michael
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: mthee on April 03, 2022, 11:51:24 AM
I'm stuck on motive. I mean, why demean your work and reputation by making claims that are so outrageous as to change your fellow engineers, fabricators, et al, usual applause to derision?
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Itsme on April 03, 2022, 04:12:30 PM
Thank you Michael, balanced as usual.

MTHEE, if I have to start thinking about things like motive how can I hold a proper prejudice? My motive for dissing the man, to use a modern term, could be utter jealousy because if I drill two holes one of them will be in the wrong place. Also I could be jealous of the wonderful bikes he creates, especially the 500, 2 stroke Kawasaki twin he made from leftovers. I could be jealous, not saying I am but I could be............

Spartacian
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Moto63 on April 03, 2022, 04:19:30 PM
Also I could be jealous of the wonderful bikes he creates, especially the 500, 2 stroke Kawasaki twin he made from leftovers. I could be jealous, not saying I am but I could be............

Spartacian
🤣🤣...I’ve always respected a man who has broad shoulders 👍
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Moto63 on April 03, 2022, 04:41:40 PM
The thing I’ve found interesting about this particular thread is how it/he seems to slightly divide opinions which has surprised me, it’s a bit like his buddy Henry Cole. Personally I quite like both of them. Ultimately they both love two wheels which is alright in my book 👍
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: mthee on April 03, 2022, 04:43:53 PM

MTHEE, if I have to start thinking about things like motive how can I hold a proper prejudice?

Spartacian

Fair point and well made 😂
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: xbally on April 03, 2022, 05:26:09 PM
The thing I’ve found interesting about this particular thread is how it/he seems to slightly divide opinions which has surprised me, it’s a bit like his buddy Henry Cole. Personally I quite like both of them. Ultimately they both love two wheels which is alright in my book 👍
Totally agree with you there Michael.
Can we expect another season of The Moerbike Show this Spring I wonder?
There's loads of car programmes on TV but virtually nothing on bikes that I can find worth watching.
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: CrazyFrog on April 03, 2022, 06:31:45 PM
Henry Coles style of delivery grates with me a bit. Far too many 'hey man' s for me. I do remember the 60s and 70s but most of us have moved on! Having said that, if it wasn't for HC, there'd be the square root of FA on the telly about bikes, so I can tolerate his little idiosyncrasies .
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: themoudie on April 04, 2022, 01:19:21 AM
This link could further divide opinion! But I think Auntie wins with this series, so far. AND! No BL**DY ADVERTS FOR TENNA PENNY!  :( :( :( :( :(

The_Speedshop_Series1_Episode3 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00165lp/the-speedshop-series-1-3-defender-and-autojumble)

Toodle pip, Bill
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: CrazyFrog on April 04, 2022, 07:51:41 AM
This link could further divide opinion! But I think Auntie wins with this series, so far. AND! No BL**DY ADVERTS FOR TENNA PENNY!  :( :( :( :( :(

The_Speedshop_Series1_Episode3 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00165lp/the-speedshop-series-1-3-defender-and-autojumble)

Toodle pip, Bill

I think its a great series Bill, and so refreshing to see groups of vets handicapped as a result of fighting for their country, laughing and joking and getting on with their live's. Makes a change from the constant parade of whinging, entitled idiots we generally see on TV...
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: JOOLZ on April 04, 2022, 10:22:21 AM
I enjoyed the video, Allen has quite a relaxing voice and its nice to see and hear all about the bikes, I have met him a few times at various shows and we have talked shop
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: mthee on April 04, 2022, 10:33:13 AM

The_Speedshop_Series1_Episode3 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00165lp/the-speedshop-series-1-3-defender-and-autojumble)

Toodle pip, Bill

Just watched the first episode. Brilliant. Can't see anything matching this, it's got all the good ingredients, even an English wheel and square teabags 😁👍 Thanks for posting the link, Bill.
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: iansoady on April 04, 2022, 11:36:37 AM
I've seen a couple of the speedshop episodes and although my initial thoughts were "oh no, not another ageing hippy pretending to be a mechanic" I've actually been won over. He does seem like a genuine bloke although in the second episode did make rather a meal of fitting and modifying a sidecar. Better than Mr Cole and his mate any day IMO.
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Itsme on April 04, 2022, 05:02:56 PM
Hooray I'm back in the gang! Henry Cole has my respect for putting bikes on the telly and although he can be a bit pretentious he has Sam Lovegrove as a mate so he can't be all bad! Titch also makes it because he obviously loves his bikes and does some great stuff on them with and for other people.

Spartacian
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: spooky on April 04, 2022, 06:12:11 PM
I watched one episode of Henry Cole a long time ago, he wrongly identified a little Italian 50 and I never watched anything with him in again.  Which is slightly unfair as I don`t know how to put our TV on* so hardly watch anything.  I prefer the wireless on an evening, don`t even watch Moto Gp anymore, my brothers often let me know when something is on TV they think I will enjoy but I don`t bother.

  * two remotes needed for some reason ?
Title: Re: Another quirky Millyard video
Post by: Moto63 on April 04, 2022, 06:35:22 PM
so hardly watch anything.  I prefer the wireless on an evening, don`t even watch Moto Gp anymore,
Same here Mr Spooky, if I’m not working on our house I’ll be in the garage messing with something or other. Usually a motorbike. Either way I’ll have Planet Rock radio on in the background that’s for sure.
By the way I’ve just found out that Allen Millyard use to work at AWE (automatic weapons establishment) not quite sure in what capacity... maybe he was a nuclear scientist 😁😉
Cheers, Michael