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Title: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Steve Lake on May 02, 2021, 10:20:33 AM
i don't have the ignition switch so not able to get a key number. i would like to remove the filler so that i can get a key made, but, as it's locked , the simple action of removing the allen bolts doesn't free up the cap, as the latch is still engaged with the underside of the opening. frustrated of norfolk ....
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Itsme on May 05, 2021, 06:01:22 AM
Hi Steve

Bit of a long shot, but me and my son have been teaching ourselves lockpicking. It isn't too difficult and picks can be bought cheaply from ebay. Might be an option?

Spartacus
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Moto63 on May 05, 2021, 07:23:43 AM
Hi Steve
 me and my son have been teaching ourselves lockpicking.

Spartacus
Just one question.........WHY? 🤔
Should your local neighbourhood be worried about thier  doors🚪🤣
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Steve Lake on May 05, 2021, 08:01:33 AM
ok, well, not an immediate problem now as i have sold the rolling chassis with the tank on, but lock picking could be an option. thanks for the idea.
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: themoudie on May 05, 2021, 08:22:01 AM
Cheap!

Good health, Bill
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Itsme on May 05, 2021, 11:29:06 AM
Hi Steve
 me and my son have been teaching ourselves lockpicking.

Spartacus
Just one question.........WHY? 🤔
Should your local neighbourhood be worried about thier  doors🚪🤣

Ha ha, no they shouldn't be worried. We just like to set ourselves little shared challenges and this one came up because of an episode of Sherlock I think.

Spartacus
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: SteveC#222 on May 05, 2021, 04:18:54 PM
Hi Steve
 me and my son have been teaching ourselves lockpicking.

Spartacus
Just one question.........WHY? 🤔
Should your local neighbourhood be worried about thier  doors🚪🤣

Ha ha, no they shouldn't be worried. We just like to set ourselves little shared challenges and this one came up because of an episode of Sherlock I think.

Spartacus

Have you come across 'The Lock Picking Lawyer' on Youtube? You might find it interesting.
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Itsme on May 05, 2021, 04:35:07 PM
Hi Steve

Yes him and Bosnia Bill are great favourites of ours. I have to admit that David, my son, is far better than me but I am getting there. Once the basic skill of not over-tensioning the setting tool is mastered it just comes down to being patient and sensitive in order to do a basic pick. I can't imagine most fuel cap locks would be too sophisticated so wouldn't have security pins etc so should be fairly easy.

Hmm now I am wondering about the old CBF500 cap I have in the garage. Hooray a task for tomorrow, I will report back on progress.

Spartacus
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Steve Lake on May 14, 2021, 03:46:32 PM
OK, managed to remove fuel filler, even though it was locked.... by gently prising it up at the back with a wide blade screwdriver and some felt to protect the tank. came out with a pop.
sure enough it was pretty well seized up, so stripped, cleaned & lubricated. still none of the keys i have would work, so today i took it to my local (highly praised) locksmith, yup, he could do it, £25 with 2 keys ... ready for me monday. midday i get a call, lock is ready !!! but with only 1 key, as he had run out of blanks .... £15 .... now there's a result.
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: themoudie on May 14, 2021, 04:22:01 PM
 ;D The "broad bladed scewdriver"! That'll be a jemmy then?  ;)

Sorry, Steve, couldn't resist! I have a similar gem of a locksmith up here, old school trained and despairing of the "throw away" door and window furniture of today.

Plum porter was tasty, I'm working my way through a mixed case!

K2 off to Durham today and the Duke, finally, starting to carburate half decently! :) However, urban crawls and  traffic light stops are not appreciated and can result in a cough and splutter!  :-[ Dismount, fold up footrest and brake lever, kickstart, unfold controls and then "make progress" before the sodding lights change back to red!  ::)

Yew keep a troshin bor, good health, Bill
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Steve Lake on May 14, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
hi Bill... just discovered Batemans 'Victory' ... very nice at 6%, light and malty.... one of my favourite 'local' breweries ...

pip pip
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: themoudie on May 15, 2021, 09:04:09 AM
Aye Steve,

Cheap head these days, so anything over 5% takes a while and preferably, with good food!  ;D Those days of Guinness and whisky chasers are past.  :)

Off for a canter on the Duke, with Kat on the Bros up through the Glens.

Good health, Bill
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: CrazyFrog on May 15, 2021, 04:24:56 PM
Good result-I always like a happy ending 👍
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Steve Lake on May 15, 2021, 04:56:51 PM
don't we all   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: mthee on May 16, 2021, 10:52:21 AM
But no one as much as moto63 - he's really mushy!😜
Title: Re: lost key to fuel tank filler .... ideas please
Post by: Moto63 on May 16, 2021, 04:54:58 PM
Yeah... cos he not only likes a happy ending. He simply LOVES a happy ending 😉👍🤘